Well, if you know so much about A.I. and such, why not craft a MUD client for those that play those games? Lol sorry to be off-topic, but my gosh we have all these programmers on list, and no MUD client that works well with 10.10 and doesn’t crash every 30 minutes or so. > On Jun 6, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Yuma Decaux <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks Devon for seeing past some kind of weird polemic some people in this > mailing list are stuck on. I was just raising a tech question, issue, debate, > whatever. But it seems not everyone is a computer science student or someone > working everyday, including with apple (I won’t say more) on making the user > experience better. > > Doesn’t matter, I’m not here to fight anyone. Just to point out a few things > here and there. Like you said, this is not 1984. And if you think you got > privacy, you’re fooling yourself, as there is a lot of information one can > get on your computer. Apple has made and gone through tremendous efforts to > make this information not accessible from third parties. And I commend that. > But to altogether not do anything with your data just for the purpose of > making your experience better is a mistake. Nothing else. And as a loyal > apple customer, I’m also allowed to say such and such sub element of the mac > os is crap. This is called democracy. > > Anyway, off to learning more A.I for my own projects. > > > >> On 7/06/2015, at 1:13 am, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I also think that if Apple, and Facebook and Google alike, collected ifno >> about accessibility, like what user likes what way of navigating, what >> device they use to navigate, like touch screen during the night, keyboard >> during the day, keyboard for typing in passwords and longer texts, then >> perhaps the whole user experience of accessibility could be tons better. I >> mean, Google and facebook collect info, tons of it. So why not this? And I >> agree that Apple should collect some user data. Enough to let them know what >> users want. This isn't 1980 Tim Cook. Users now have a loud, demanding voice >> and want to be heard. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 6, 2015, at 1:30 AM, Yuma Decaux <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Again, y’all didn’t even get the essence of the concern. >>> >>> the concern is about apple adopting a technology or Artificial intelligence >>> technique that other tech companies are adopting which will surpass what >>> any of you can imagine. I can say this, being at the uni’s computer labs >>> with other peers working and studying on artificial intelligence. You only >>> see the crap google and facebook are trying to do to monetise their shit. >>> The difference here, the nuance you were basically not able to catch, is >>> that Mister Timmy, on the basis of privacy legalese, has not saught out to >>> adopt deep learning, which requires data collection. If he went “we’re >>> making sure your data is safe, and granularly reflect on which data should >>> be anonimised but kept for the purpose of making your experience richer” >>> then I wouldn’t be concerned. I am because he flatly went against any of >>> these technologies. Hence the concern. >>> >>> man, some y’all are purely and simply blinded by all the hardware you buy >>> and living only apple everyday of your lives. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 6/06/2015, at 11:12 am, The Believer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I do not know if many people, with brains that cannot comprehend legalese, >>>> will take the time to read terms of service and user agreements every time >>>> they are updated, if in fact they read them at all. >>>> >>>> I have no clue if Apple has me on the receiving end of anything but the >>>> great produicts I own. I do not get gobs of spam that I need to opt out of >>>> like one company whose cable services I no longer use but they cannot take >>>> no for an answer, so now and them I must opt out yet again or continue to >>>> get bucket loads of offers eqch month. >>>> >>>> Now that Paypal has split off from eBay as of July 1st, what I saw of >>>> their new terms could be of great concern. >>>> >>>> In a nutshell, they state that if you do not agree to accept bucket loads >>>> of spam via texts and robocalls, feel free to close your Paypal account. >>>> >>>> The virtual universe we live in is a wide open environment. Danger lurks >>>> in every nanobyte. >>>> >>>> That said, of anyone is unhappy with Apple, or any other company, they >>>> have a simple fix. Send everything to Davy Jone's Locker. >>>> >>>> From The Believer. . . >>>> By way of the Chariots of the >>>> Gods cameth the Aliens who >>>> dwelt amongst the humans, >>>> and bringeth much knowledge. >>>> >>>>> On 6/5/2015 5:03 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: >>>>> Hang on a minute. You’re concerned about Apple’s continued business >>>>> viability in spite of overwhelming evidence of their success, because >>>>> unlike those guys over at Facebook and Google, they don’t make gobs of >>>>> money by harvesting user data for free services, and your explaining your >>>>> justifications by way of sources quoted by Business Insider? >>>>> >>>>> Just so there’s some sort of accessibility-related edge to this nonsense, >>>>> I’d just like to say that I feel very fortunate indeed that the most >>>>> accessible platform also respects my privacy the most of all the >>>>> mainstream proprietary platforms. Sure, I think Timmy-boy is telling a >>>>> little white one when he says they don’t collect user data—of course they >>>>> do, and they would rather you used their iCloud and store services, and >>>>> will if necessary take steps to accidentally rope you into the family. >>>>> But honestly, I infinitely prefer the completely optional wallet rape you >>>>> get from Apple to the completely involuntary data raping practices of >>>>> FarceBook and the great chocolate factory in the sky. Those two >>>>> companies make you the product in exchange for little tasty morsels of >>>>> mediocrity, and have done more to harm personal privacy than any other >>>>> organisation with the possible exception of the NSA and GCHQ. So if the >>>>> suggestion here is that Apple should take my data in addition to their ex >>>> cessive margins, then the person suggesting it is all about the money, >>>> plain and simple, and can sod right off. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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