Well I'm not going to do any demonstrations until it's out for the general 
public at least. It's only right I respect Apple's NDA and so should we all, 
even if it means speculating what's fixed, changed or even broken for VoiceOver.
> On 13 Jun 2015, at 20:02, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys. 
> I may be missing something here, but it seems to me that we need something 
> similar to what the sighted get when it comes to telling what features are 
> going to happen in VoiceOver. I check out the videos Apple puts on the web 
> site l WWDC etc., and I go through items that I know for sure I can’t use; 
> that’s ok, because I know that’s going to happen. Before IOS 8 came out, I 
> heard this wonderful demo of it, and I found out about the braille screen 
> input when I heard it. Since I did not get the podcast some weird place, I 
> assume Apple let that demo happen. So, is anybody going to be allowed some 
> time to show us VoiceOver on the new platforms for IOS and Mac? That would 
> cut down on a lot of speculation and questions and maybe people fussing about 
> others violating their agreements, and I refuse to speculate on whether 
> someone has done that. Apple folks are on this list, and they can do the 
> yelling if need be. For some of us (not me apparently at this time) finding 
> out about VoiceOver new features, changes, and fixes may very well make the 
> difference in whether to get a new device. 
> 
> Gigi 
> 
>> On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:23 AM, Shaf <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm really glad to report that El Capitan is a lot more responsive with 
>> VoiceOver. Huge thanks to Apple for fixing this!
>> They've also added some other sound when navigating to another folder 
>> (VoiceOver only), which is kind of weird but it's OK. The 'Allow VoiceOver 
>> to be controlled with Apple Script' checkbox is finally fixed.
>> Another slightly annoying bug is VoiceOver makes a double clicking sound 
>> when entering a password.
>> 
>> On 6/13/2015 11:41 AM, Kliph wrote:
>>> That is a pretty simple process.  Go to disk utility with command shift u, 
>>> go to disc utility, select the drive you want to create the partition on, 
>>> vo space bar on partition, go to add knew, by default it will split your 
>>> drive into 2 partitions in exact size.  If you like theis, click continue, 
>>> it will let you know that the 2nd partition will be created without 
>>> changing anything on the first, if you are fine with that, click next.  
>>> Wait a few minutes, and your second partition should be created.  HTH
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>>> 
>>>> On Jun 13, 2015, at 5:39 AM, Rajiv Shah <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Christopher,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> How did you create the partitioning accessibly?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Rajiv
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: christopher hallsworth <[email protected]>
>>>> To: macvisionaries <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 02:40:58 -0400 (EDT)
>>>> Subject: Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all
>>>> 
>>>> I am currently running the beta of OS X 10.11 El Capitan, however in the 
>>>> last hour I have installed the public release of OS X 10.10.3 Yosemite. 
>>>> All went well, and I can boot into either operating system, even though 
>>>> the primary partition has an operating system newer than the secondary 
>>>> partition. You try this on Windows, you will be out of luck. You must 
>>>> install the oldest version first then the newer one if you want a 
>>>> successful multiboot environment. No such limitation exists on the Mac 
>>>> platform though.
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