Hi,

They shouldn't need to make it a standard command. It's easy enough to  
customize, and the command is already available. Just not assigned.  
Here, you get flexibility.

Regards,
Nic
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On Nov 4, 2009, at 6:01 PM, anouk radix wrote:

>
> Hello, I really need to get into voicover commander and setup a
> ocmmand to quickly switch between group and dom because I am too lazy
> to open vo-util everytime. I also need to do the seem for muting
> speech, i hope they will add a command for this someday.
> Greetings, Anouk
> On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:46 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>
>>
>> Safari is wicked slow at handling frames.  If you can get in to group
>> mode though, that will take care of any issues you are having with
>> tables.  For example.  There is a web site called tape trader where
>> fans trade their recordings of live conserts.  When you do a search  
>> or
>> look at some ones list of shows in dom mode, the dates don't show up
>> anywhere.  All of the other info is available, and you can check the
>> shows you want, but you cant get the date with VO, which is the most
>> important piece of the puzzle.  By switching to group mode, I guess  
>> it
>> takes the date out of the check box column where it shows up on
>> windows and gives it its own column.  So you can cruze the dates very
>> easily and check the one you want.  Only two problems I've found with
>> group mode.  It does tend to slow browsing down a bit, and safari is
>> not known for being greesed lightning to begin with in my experience.
>> Also, your adium chats won't display properly in group mode, a
>> situation which I very much hope will be fixed at some point because
>> group mode is my friend and I'd like to keep him with me always.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> erik burggraaf
>> A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
>> Phone: 888-255-5194
>> Email: [email protected]
>>
>> On 2009-11-04, at 9:47 AM, anouk radix wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi, erik I use the item chooser extensively in fact I navigate
>>> webpages often not by element but by webrotor or item chooser  
>>> because
>>> some pages are rather confusing to me with voicover even though i  
>>> use
>>> dom, some items just dont show up with vo-right, i think because  
>>> they
>>> are in tables so i just use webrotor and item chooser instead. One
>>> problem i have with item chooser is that i fI want to go to the
>>> second
>>> occasion of a certain string I cant use it, i think because it only
>>> shows unique things. I also notice frames a lot mor ethen on the pc
>>> and I have to open a certain frame before I can see its contents, on
>>> the pc i did not have to worry about frames at all. some times pages
>>> with frames are entirely unaccessible (worldofaegis). But overall
>>> surfing goes relatively well even though on some occasions safari is
>>> still agonizingly slow and does not respond at all.
>>> Greetings, Anouk
>>> On Nov 4, 2009, at 1:59 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anouk,
>>>>
>>>> Instead of VO F,  try VO I.  This is the item chooser which you
>>>> probably know about already, but it's applications on the web are
>>>> endless.
>>>>
>>>> The item chooser will  filter the objects on the screen based on
>>>> what
>>>> you type.  If you type search or results, you will quickly get to
>>>> the
>>>> search results notice at the top of your search .  If you only know
>>>> pages with frames are even totally unaccessible (the
>>>> worldofaegis.com site for example) but for the most part now that I
>>>> have done it a bit more often
>>>
>>>> part of the word you are looking form, that will work as well.   
>>>> Once
>>>> you type something in you can arrow down to see all the items on  
>>>> the
>>>> window or page that have the string you typed appearing anywhere in
>>>> them.  This is more friendly than pressing control F, enter,  
>>>> reading
>>>> the first instance, then pressing control F again and enter again  
>>>> to
>>>> go to the next instance.
>>>>
>>>> If you don't find what you're looking for in the item chooser,
>>>> simply
>>>> press the back space once to clear the entry and type something
>>>> else.
>>>>
>>>> It's fantastic, and it made my browsing experience for me back when
>>>> element navigation wasn't as good as it is now.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> erik burggraaf
>>>> A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
>>>> Phone: 888-255-5194
>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> On 2009-11-04, at 5:12 AM, anouk radix wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Nicolai,
>>>>> Hello, Although I do get more experienced with the mac and the web
>>>>> everyday I still find my windows solution faster, I use the item
>>>>> chooser and the web rotor, i only miss the fact that I cannot
>>>>> search
>>>>> for a certain text string again. Vo-f does not seem to work for me
>>>>> within safari. Also at times when reading messages in a forum with
>>>>> my
>>>>> braille display it does not want to advance to a new message so it
>>>>> does not read the entire page but just skips to the beginning of
>>>>> the
>>>>> currentmessage again and I have to do vo-right about 12 times to
>>>>> get
>>>>> to the beginning of the next message instead.
>>>>> I do now more or less know how to use the finder as effectively as
>>>>> possible although it is still lsow, i will try Gregs script real
>>>>> soon
>>>>> and probbably write the pathfinder as well to see if their program
>>>>> can
>>>>> be improved.
>>>>> Greetings, Anouk
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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