I don't think it's a matter of one writing rules. I think it's a matter of
the cummunity *maturely!* coming together as just that... a community... and
working with the moderators to come up with fair rules. This way nothing at
all is dictated. It gives the members a sense of knowing their opinions
really do matter.
Personally, when I create a mailing list, I never ever ever make any rules
at all until I have at least 5 or 10 people subscribed. At this point, I
usually send out an admin message asking for people's opinions on what they
would like to see, vs. what they don't want to see with the list. We then
on list hold a discussion, *as adults,* and then once I've gotten everyone's
opinion, I, don't settle on the rules, but instead, we work together to come
up with a base plan.
If people then later join and don't like the rules, then I always invite
them to privately approach me off list, and I'll gladly discuss things with
them. Heck! I'll even go so far as to arrange a voice conversation with
them, if that is what they'd like to do. I'll then systematicly listen to
their concerns, and if I feel they are valid, then I'll address things
accordingly. If I feel they are not valid however, then I am not rude about
it. I stick my guns, yes, but I will do my best to acknowledge the person's
feelings and opinions, but then will also explain why I feel differently.
If after this we cannot come to a compromise, then I do not ban or the like.
I simply just agree to disagree. Then, if the rule gets broken past that
point, then I'll take action, but only then will I do so.
Chris.
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From: "r a gindin" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: My Own Thoughts on Today's Subjects
and who will write those rules?
ag
On 8/26/15 10:50 PM, David Tanner wrote:
Folks, let us be adults here. We all have our own opinions about a lot of
things. And, just to say that a person doesn't have the right to say that
they don't feel a need for a certain product is not life shattering. And,
if a person wants respect then they need to be sure that they are showing
respect to others on the list.
If a different moderator is needed, or if there is again a need for a
group of more than one moderator to make decisions on the rules for the
list and how it is managed then let those who wish to work daily to make
this list better let it be known that they wish to help make this a better
list for all.
But, for better or worse there are times on any mailinglist that some
folks want to act like children. So, then the moderators need to have
rules in place that clearly determine what actions will cause a person to
be put on monitoring, and if the actions continue they will be removed
from the list. And, once the rules are made the moderators need to stick
to the rules so that everyone knows what the rules are and what actions by
them will cause them to be removed from the list.
that
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 6:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: My Own Thoughts on Today's Subjects
Hi all. I, like others, also say that making a new Mac Visionaries list
won't solve anything. The reality of the matter is that drama follows us
everywhere and if we make a whole new mailing list, we're basically
running away from reality. Cara made an excellent point earlier and I'm
proud that she was honest enough to come out in the open and explain
herself. It's hard to lose someone you care dearly about, and I give her
my sincere condolences.
Now, about the certain somebody that you all keep writing about, and I
know who all of you are talking about. You each may have your own reasons
for why you dislike him so much, but your contempt for him over shadows
what he's done for this community, and I for one appreciate what he's
done. I mean, I'm like him. When I post to this list about issues or
opinions, I'm hoping that my intentions are good and that somebody
appreciates them without having to ask for that appreciation. And when
people attack me, just like someone did last week, (you know who you are),
because I gave an honest opinion about the iPhone 6 Plus and why I don't
need one right now, it's like a slap in the face. It's like someone coming
up to you and saying, "We don't care what you think so shut the F**K up."
I mean, has this list turned into so much of a drama pool where people
like me can't voice questions or opinions without getting attacked?
Because if so, that's fine. I'm on other mailing lists so I'll just share
my contributions and opinions with those lists because they actually care
what I have to say. And my other point is simple. Cara made a really good
point. I think some of us have forgotten where the delete key is on the
computer. So rather than pressing that magical button, people would rather
post to the list creating more traffic just to bash that person. So let me
give those people something to think about before you press the reply
button to bash me. If you press that reply button, you're no better than
the person that offended you. End of story. I hope you all have an
excellent night/morning or whatever it is you live.
Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: [email protected]
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