Hi again, by mistake all the text was not copying. First is a link to Blind 
Square help site. Then something i have learnd myself lately.

http://blindsquare.com/help/

My own learning lately:

Hi,

I did a little test in my local earea in Oslo yesterday. Google Maps vs. 
Navigon with or without Blind Square.

Navigon has become bad here in this area. Looks like it goes from walking to 
driving mode. Did not recalculate my position when i walk to left instead of 
right. Same bad result with or without Blind Square.

Google Maps did better or good. Did recalculate my position fast. Did 
recalculate position a little slower with Blind Square though. Started to 
recalculate after a while. Best result when starting Blind Square anone first, 
then chosing only to track the destination. Then started Google Maps. Turn by 
turn to the same destination. As i am writing this, i start to think that the 
GPS did multitask to maps, one for Google Maps i.e. Google Maps and one for 
Blind Square i.e. Open Street Map. Two different maps to the same destination. 
Don’t think it happen at the same time in real time, but was waiting in cue to 
announce something. 

Usually in familier area i use Blind Square Only with or without tracking, but 
a few days back i needed turn by turn and Navigon did send me to the left - 
right here and there like a drunk man in pedistration mode. Blind Square told 
me it was south or west the destination was. Therefore i was able to come 
through the confusion. 

It may be different for Country and city wich app works best for turn by turn 
in pedestrian mode. Driving mode may be completely different.

One question: Starting Blind Square Only first in tracking mode. Then Google 
Maps in turn by turn mode. The same destination. Do the iPhone GPS receiver 
read from two different maps at the same time?

Take care

Hello!

Thank you for test report! I suggest you try also with Apple Maps and see
how it performs. It has come better and better over the time.

When you run BSq and other tool at the same time, iOS has GPS on and
reports location to both apps. BSq keeps reading form OpenStreetMap (and
street names from Apple) and that 3rd party app uses its own data sources.

I tested Apple Maps one time in the local area in Oslo today. Very good. 
Recalculated the route fast and correct. Turn by turn was pretty close to the 
actual turns. Maps was running in front like an scout a little too far away and 
anouncing a street a little bit too far to the right at one time along the 
route. Not exactly wrong, but a little long way aroun. But, it came back to me 
and chose the fastest way to the destination.

Tim Cook have said in interviews that apple takes GPS serious. 

How do i save  a place to favorites after searching for it?

There is favourite switch on the same results page where you have "Plan a
route».

For those who is not familiar with Apple Maps.

Earlier i said the Apple Maps told me to turn around when walking the opposite 
way after about 50 meters. It does, but this time i dicided to ignore and keep 
walking. I wanted to see if Apple Maps still would recalculate my position. It 
did. Very useful. Also, today i discovered that Apple Maps turn by turn tells 
the name of the street when it tell you to turn. For example: «turn right into 
sunset boulevard» and then after 120 meters turn left into twilight street». I 
think the street name announcement is reassuring i.e. good for the sef - 
confidence. Another feature that is priceless, is to touch your finger nearly 
at the top on the screen where the turn by turn instruction is. This will tell 
you how many meters or foot there is left to the turn. If it says 0 meters, you 
are there or very near. I even could walk about 20 meters back and get new 
information about distance to the turn. It updates live as you walk. I loaded 
Apple Maps with Blind Square.

Google Maps also updates the distance, if memory serves, quite simular to Apple 
Maps, but Google Maps only says turn right or turn left. Do not announce the 
street names.

If you think it is difficult to walk with GPS in the streets, it is. Practice 
in familiar area helps. I am visually impaired. i am very impressed of those 
peaple who are totally blind and walk with GPS in the city without guide dog. 
It is a gift that takes time to learn. Even with a guide dog.

One question: A couple of times i have loaded Apple Maps with Blind Square with 
a personal POI  as destination. Looks like Apple Maps sees the POI as 
coordinates. Only numbers. Is it true that you can use theese coordinates as a 
normal destination? A couple of times when theese coordinates(mumbers) wa the 
destinationi felt that Apple Maps was only working 50%. Not much announcements, 
but the finger touch on the screen turn by turn area worked. If memory serves.

29. aug. 2015 kl. 15:21 skrev Terje Strømberg <[email protected]>:

For those who is not familiar with Apple Maps.

Earlier i said the Apple Maps told me to turn around when walking the opposite 
way after about 50 meters. It does, but this time i dicided to ignore and keep 
walking. I wanted to see if Apple Maps still would recalculate my position. It 
did. Very useful. Also, today i discovered that Apple Maps turn by turn tells 
the name of the street when it tell you to turn. For example: «turn right into 
sunset boulevard» and then after 120 meters turn left into twilight street». I 
think the street name announcement is reassuring i.e. good for the sef - 
confidence. Another feature that is priceless, is to touch your finger nearly 
at the top on the screen where the turn by turn instruction is. This will tell 
you how many meters or foot there is left to the turn. If it says 0 meters, you 
are there or very near. I even could walk about 20 meters back and get new 
information about distance to the turn. It updates live as you walk. I loaded 
Apple Maps with Blind Square.

Google Maps also updates the distance, if memory serves, quite simular to Apple 
Maps, but Google Maps only says turn right or turn left. Do not announce the 
street names.

If you think it is difficult to walk with GPS in the streets, it is. Practice 
in familiar area helps. I am visually impaired. i am very impressed of those 
peaple who are totally blind and walk with GPS in the city without guide dog. 
It is a gift that takes time to learn. Even with a guide dog.

One question: A couple of times i have loaded Apple Maps with Blind Square with 
a personal POI  as destination. Looks like Apple Maps sees the POI as 
coordinates. Only numbers. Is it true that you can use theese coordinates as a 
normal destination? A couple of times when theese coordinates(mumbers) wa the 
destinationi felt that Apple Maps was only working 50%. Not much announcements, 
but the finger touch on the screen turn by turn area worked. If memory serves.

Take care

29. aug. 2015 kl. 13:20 skrev wayne coles <[email protected]>:

hello I cant talk about the rest but I use blind square all the time with 
google maps and apple maps with no problems but I think it is a personal 
opinion but try and fint out hope this helps 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 3:52 PM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Good points of interest app for iPhone six

I will be traveling in the Virgin Islands late October and I will need a good 
points of interest app. I am assuming that blind Square is the best out there? 
I've never used it. Does anyone have any recommendations? I would like 
something that will work in concert with either Apple maps or NAVIGON. Thanks

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