Actually, I found out today that her mike is dead smack center of the 
dashboard, so it's in between both of us.

Chris.

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  From: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 1:18 PM
  Subject: Re: Question about bluetooth


  I think on Honda, Ford and some other cars, once you're paired you can still 
use your phone to do all the controls, it just uses the car's sound and mic for 
audio. Easy enough to try out. Also many car bluetooth setups have just one mic 
and it's aimed at the driver so the caller won't be able to hear the passenger 
very well. I will often times turn off bluetooth while in the car to make phone 
calls because of this.

  CB


  On 9/9/15 12:08 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

    Chris, if your car radio takes over the A2DP outbound channel then you’ll 
have lost voice over unless you grab it through some other means like a wired 
headset. 


    There may be a way around this for example disabling the A2DP but leaving 
the hands free enabled but I haven’t played with this enough to see if it’s 
workable.  I just have my phone auto pair when I get close to the car and my 
driver hits the answer key but my driver isn’t technically lacking so that may 
not work for you.


    Good luck


      On Sep 9, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<[email protected]> wrote:


      OK, so I cannot make an outgoing call with Voiceover from the IPhone 
itself when its connected to her car?  That sucks, as she hasn't the slightest 
idea what she's doing.  When I told her hit the voice talk button on her 
steering wheel, she got all nurvous and was like, I'll make the car not drive 
from fowling it up.  I can't be pushing buttons.  Her word, not mine.  This is 
why I'm trying to make it as seemless for her as I can.  It's a miricle, 
frankly, that I was able to teach her how to go from FM radio to bluetooth 
audio.  I don't wanna overwhelm her.  Her car doesn't have any buttons on the 
radio dashboard either.  So I can't do any of it myself for her.  Even the 
volume control slider is totally touch screen based, and I don't have anywhere 
near!  the vision to do it on my own.

      Chris.

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Scott Granados
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 8:21 AM
        Subject: Re: Question about bluetooth


        Chris, 
        So I am not a big fan of the toyota electronics but that’s me 
personally. I have the ford sync system so you know where I’m coming from but I 
think the questions you ask are basic enough it’s the same on all systems.
        If an incoming call comes in the audio system automatically attaches to 
your phone and your hear your phones ringer over the hands free channel.  If 
you have wide bandwidth enabled and your car supports it you’ll get a very 
clear audio call if both ends of the call support it.  One thing to note if 
you’re using an iPhone you’ll get local audio as well even with bluetooth 
enabled in some cases so you can swipe and answer.  To answer the call you can 
also answer via the cars audio system (there’s usually a button for answer) or 
answer on the phone.  If you answer on the phone depending on your setup you 
may answer on your phones speaker though and need to hit tht source on the 
phone and select the car.  Once the handsfree is triggered though you’ll be on 
the car audio.
        On an outgoing call you’ll use the cars system to place the call.  
Either pull a contact from the contact list built in or use the cars audio 
support.  Some pass through to Siri or in the case of my system it has it’s own 
voice support and interface tuned for the car.


        Depending on your touch screen you may be able to work this your self 
if the screen has enough physical landmarks.  In the ford system I have you can 
touch around the center dials or in other positions relative to physical 
controls so you know where the touch panel portions you’re interested in can be 
found.


        Hope that helps.


          On Sep 7, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<[email protected]> wrote:


          Guys,

          I have a quick question.

          My grandmother just got a new car.  It's a 2015 Toyoda Corola.  
Anyway, this is the very very first vehicle that I've had the chance to ride in 
on a regular basis that has bluetooth ability.  All the cars that both my mom 
and grandmother have had before this didn't have bluetooth.

          Anyway, we got my phone pared to her car with absolutely no problem.  
Unfortunately, the controls on her dashboard are totally touch screen, so I 
can't opperate the car stereo at all.  I can't even adjust the volume, as even 
that! is all touch screen.  Sucks, but whatever.  My grandmother can do that 
part for me.

          Anyway, my grandmother is probably by far the most computer 
illiterate person I've ever known, and honestly she doesn't even have the 
slightest desire to learn.  If her car didn't have bluetooth, it would have 
served her just fine.  She didn't special request it, as much as it just so 
happened to have it.  I think most cars now adays come pretty standard with it. 
 Anyway, here's my question.

          On her radio console dashboard screen after first turning on her car, 
she has an icon that says source.  If she touches on source, she then gets 3 
options provided my phone is connected, which it always normally will be.  She 
gets, FM, A.M, and Audio.  Audio is basically what they're naming the 
bluetooth.  In other words, if she taps on source, then taps on Audio, then my 
phone audio, be it Voiceover, be it music, whatever comes through her car 
speakers.  It's really awesome.  Apple Music through her car stereo baby!  And 
you'd be shocked if you've never heard Bluetooth audio in a car playing music.  
     The sound is actually super crystal! clear.  Anyway, being my phone 
connects via bluetooth automatically to her car when I get inside, this means 
that my phone's internal speaker stops working since everything now is being 
routed to bluetooth instead.  So, if she's got the FM radio going for instance, 
then obviously, I can't hear Voiceover nor anything at all on my phone.

          So, what happens if I get a phone call, or need to make! a call?  
Yes, she has the controls on her steering wheel to answer and hang up, as well 
as voice command, but again, non techy.  She thinks in her words, I'll fowl up 
the car where it won't even drive if I start pushing buttons.  Those are her 
words, not mine.  I know, it's pathetic.  Anyway, point is, someone told me 
that if I get a call, even if she's on the radio, she won't have to manually 
switch the source over to bluetooth audio.  I'm told that the car should 
automatically detect an incoming call, and switch the source over to bluetooth 
audio without the need for she nor I to do anything.  Then, when the call is 
disconnected, it'll then go back to the radio source.  I don't think she even 
can! switch the source while she's driving.  I don't think it'll letter.  I 
think it's a safety mechinism.  She has to be stopped, and in park for it to 
work.  If she's in drive, reverse, or neutral it won't work.  Well, in reverse, 
she has one a those camera things to show'er what's behind her, so the screen 
totally goes off the menu at that point as it's just then a viewfinder.  
Anyway, sames goes with making a call.  Whether I use Siri or manually use the 
phone app itself, once my outgoing call is placed, will she have to then switch 
the source over, or will it automatically stop her radio and pop me over to the 
bluetooth for the duration of the call.

          Sorry to  be so ignorant with this, but really, I've never delt with 
car bluetooth until now.

          Chris.


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