I also think that you need to reconsider this Mark. I own to OS X devices and one iPhone. The iPhone gets the lion share of my use. I don't want to have to change list simply for this arbitrary division of devices. I continually monitor and use this list because it allows for all devices and on discussion of all Apple products. It wasn't too long ago we were discussing the heck out of the watch. I didn't mind that then because it's an Apple product and I think that iPhones definitely belong on this list.
Sent from my IPhone > On Sep 15, 2015, at 9:59 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Short version - Me too > Longer version > VoiceOver was introduced April 2005, 10 years ago, as part of OSX 10.4. > MacVisionaries, the mailing list, was set up around that same month, best as > I can tell. It started as a Mac-only list because it predates the > introduction of the iPhone (June 2007), not to mention VoiceOver on the > iPhone (June 2009). I've argued previously that the name is now a bit of an > anachronism. The iOS halo effect and Apple's heavy push to integrate OSX > machines with iOS devices are well known. There is also a very high > correlation between Mac and iOS users (although not as much the other > direction). It seems clear that discussions of Voiceover are going to > easily ebb and flow between iOS and OSX by design. To artificially bifurcate > conversations into two buckets seems like a work of futility as it goes > against the reality of the Apple ecosystem/marketplace/common use case and, > most importantly, would decrease the value of the list to its members. > > My previous post in April on this topic is at the link below which argues > similar points: > > https://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg120224.html > > CB > >> On 9/15/15 9:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> Hi Mark, >> >> I respectfully disagree. It has been stated in the past that MacVisionaries >> is an "Everything Apple" list where we can discuss just that, MacOS, iOS, >> Apple hardware etc. As the line between the MacOS, the iOS and its related >> hardware continually fades, I feel that it is very beneficial to be able to >> discuss a wider range of Apple hardware/software as it relates to >> accessibility on this list. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Sep 15, 2015, at 02:15, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> As this is not an iOS forum, I ask that this topic be taken off-list. >> >> Thank you for understanding. >> >> Mark >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
