actually i found this bug on the first beta of the el capitan, so hopefully if 
i'll install the el capitan stand alone edition i can verify it all. the sound 
effect was so frustrating before but i already reported that.
> On 30 Sep 2015, at 8:25 PM, Sadam Ahmed <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex, 
> 
> Thanks for this write up. 
> 
> The next update is in beta 2 so hopefully there will be a fix to some of the 
> VO bugs soon. 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed 
> 
>> On 1 Oct 2015, at 3:56 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> Just a note to say that El Capitan has been released. I compiled a bug list 
>> for AppleVis which I strongly recommend everyone looks at, as there are some 
>> pretty major problems on there. I also wrote a blog, and did a podcast, 
>> covering the new features in VoiceOver. Links:
>> 
>> Bug List:
>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/mac-os-x-news/accessibility-bugs-os-x-1011-el-capitan-serious-minor
>> 
>> New Features Blog:
>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/assistive-technology-mac-os-x-news/whats-new-os-x-1011-el-capitan-voiceover-users
>> 
>> New Features Podcast:
>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/exploring-some-new-accessibility-features-os-x-1011-el-capitan
>> 
>> I realized, in reading this email back, that it might come off as a little 
>> arrogant. I don't mean it that way, I just wanted to give people a single 
>> place to get some coverage about the new OS, and those are the only 
>> accessibility-centric sources I know of for now.
>> 
>> --
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex Hall
>> [email protected]
>> 
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