Chris,

After two days since the debacle of a clean install going back to Yosemite from 
Capitan, and doing a time machine revert after the clean install debacle, I am 
very happy to say everything is running great again in Yosemite. I guess moral 
or the story is before upgrading or downgrading make sure you have those time 
machine back ups as not even Apple Accessibility seems to have experienced what 
I did, but thankfully Time Machine saved the day. Now the fun of having to deal 
with hearing embedded embedded back in mail again. Will wait until the next 
upgrade of Capitan drops see what the word is regarding accessibility and then 
decide if it is time to reupgrade.
> On Oct 18, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Brandon A. Olivares (The Pianist) 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I’m on the official release, with all latest updates.
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>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, I am curious then, as some are experiencing and some are not.
>>  
>> Is quick nav turned on for those of you who are trying to edit, and can't 
>> within Safari?  If so, then what about single letter navigation.  Is that 
>> turned on as well?
>>  
>> Finally, Are those of you who are not having issues on the official release, 
>> or are you all runnikng private or public betas.  I'm not asking you to say 
>> much due to NDA, but at least tell me that much.  I'm just trying to 
>> pinpoint down where the difference may be occurring within multi 
>> configuration environments.
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: Krister Ekstrom <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?
>>> 
>>> Hi, same here, editing commands work well here.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>>> 18 okt. 2015 kl. 18:54 skrev Brandon A. Olivares (The Pianist) 
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>>> 
>>>> I’m not sure why editing commands wouldn’t work for anyone. They are 
>>>> working perfectly fine for me. Just tested it.
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wo!  Those commands like option+left and right, command+left and right, 
>>>>> etc. were brought over from Unix/Linux?  Now how cool is that!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Halton" <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> To: <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 9:36 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> As to text editing and edit fields on Safari, I can verify that I can no 
>>>>> longer use the basic UNIX text movement in navigation and editing 
>>>>> commands in edit fields. Under the prior OS I could at the very least use 
>>>>> option left right up-and-down arrows to move around text fields. This is 
>>>>> no longer the case.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 12:26 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I need a little clarification.  Am I understanding correctly that you're 
>>>>>> stating that within a text area in Safari, one cannot properly edit text 
>>>>>> which they have previously entered?  OK, that's a dealbreaker for me, if 
>>>>>> so.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" 
>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>> To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:25 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The two big ones that I think constitute annoying but non-critical 
>>>>>> blockers are the broken editing of text in edit fields on Safari and the 
>>>>>> continued non-responsiveness while moving          around Mail, either 
>>>>>> in tables in the classic view or in mail message content.  If efficiency 
>>>>>> is important to you, stay on Yosemite for a bit longer.
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