I seriously doubt the contention that there are no blind users on Apple's 
accessibility team.

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> On 29 Oct 2015, at 22:26, Jürgen Fleger <apple-engl...@fleger.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello Anne and Anders,
> 
> the same issues occur on my german keyboard layout.
> 
> Regarding the answers of the accessibility team: I don’t think they let blind 
> VO users work in their team and so, if someone’s not using VO on a daily 
> base, a lot of issues do not occur because they show up randomly. I started 
> to ignore the answer, it should depend on my device or other installed 
> software, and my hope is they will keep it in mind if others report this 
> issue. 
> 
> The second strategy is simply to call them. I experienced several times that 
> they couldn’t duplicate an issue via e-mail. But when I called them, told 
> them to take the same stepps I took, they suddenly could duplicate the issue 
> and wrote a note about it. 
> 
> Once I called them and he couldn’t confirm my issue. Then I asked him wether 
> he switched on VO and he appologized because he tried the behaviour I 
> reported with VO switched off. So it might be good to tell them personally 
> how to do it.
> 
> All the best 
> Jürgen
>> Am 29.10.2015 um 08:48 schrieb Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk>:
>> 
>> Hello Anders,
>> 
>> If you do VO-k, does VoiceOver announce the hotspots correctly? If so, then 
>> something very strange is happening.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 19:52, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I use swedish keyboard here.
>>> Maybe this is the case here to.
>>> I wonder why?
>>> /A
>>>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 19:12, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Anders,
>>>> 
>>>> What keyboard layout are you using? I ask because with French keyboards, 
>>>> the French Numeric layout, which allows you to use the caps lock to have 
>>>> numbers on the top row instead of upper case accented letters and so on, 
>>>> is not supported with VoiceOver, although any commands using letters still 
>>>> work. In that case, hotspots are a nightmare.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Anne
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 18:38, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> Ok, so i did a reset of my vo settings and still no go for hotspot number 
>>>>> 2.
>>>>> I tested this on my mac mini mid 2011 and my new macbook air.
>>>>> So how in the world can this be device specific as the accessibility team 
>>>>> stated?
>>>>> I have got back to them so i hope i will get any advice.
>>>>> I keep you all posted if interested.
>>>>> /A
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