David,
 Just wondering, 
Where would you put the Sim card in the apple watch if it did have the phone 
built in?

They're picky enough to setup as they are, without adding the complexity of 
having a phone built in also. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, 3 January 2016 9:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: apple watch weirdness with bluetooth

No, the Apple Watch does not have a mobile phone in it. When in the car, all 
calls are automatically routed to the in-car phone system. When she has her 
earpiece on, iOS routes the calls there. Otherwise calls go to her watch when 
she uses the watch to answer the calls.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: [email protected]
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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> On 3 Jan 2016, at 17:43, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Just to clarify, your saying she can make and receive calls with a bluetooth 
> headset that is only paired to an apple watch?
>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 8:25 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> My partner has never had that happen between her Apple Watch and her car's 
>> bluetooth with phone calls. She also has no difficulties between her Apple 
>> Watch and her bluetooth earpiece. Then again, her iPhone does the heavy 
>> lifting. In other words, whilst her iPhone is near, it handles the BlueTooth 
>> routing.
>> 
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>>> On 3 Jan 2016, at 09:27, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> To me too.
>>> 
>>> When I was on the phone with Apple, the person had this attitude like, why 
>>> would anyone want to do what your asking? They didn’t say that but, just by 
>>> their tone. I’m like, ok. You have the ability to put music on your watch. 
>>> So if your listening to music, jogging, cycling, etc, a calls come in, you 
>>> gotta fish your iPhone out some pocket or bag if you would like a little 
>>> privacy? And Keep in mind, you have headphones on already. Gotta take those 
>>> off to have any hope of hearing the speaker on your watch. lol.
>>> 
>>> Is it a deal breaker for me? No. Mainly because my Sennheiser's support 
>>> multiple device pairing. But it does speak to managing Expectations.
>>> 
>>> In my research on this topic, people were very annoyed that they would pair 
>>> the watch to bluetooth in their vehicles, receive a call and instead of 
>>> hearing it over the cars stereo, its playing on their wrist.
>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Scott Granados <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So, to me, this is weak sauce.
>>>> 
>>>> Why put the option in, you’re telling me you can’t set up a separate 
>>>> session from the watch to phone and another from watch to headset?  Really?
>>>> 
>>>> Must be a hardware limitation but seems goofy to me.  But that’s me.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 1, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yup,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Exactly. I called Apple yesterday, and this is indeed not a bug. Its a 
>>>>> limitation caused by how they route calls. Basically, Your watch is 
>>>>> already being treated as a bluetooth speaker/mic. So,The call is being 
>>>>> defaulted to the watch speaker. I didn’t realize that calls were being 
>>>>> relayed via bluetooth. I had assumed it was via wifi similar to hand off 
>>>>> like when placing/receiving calls via a mac or iPad for example.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In my opinion, its quite an inconvenience.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Long story short, you want to take calls privately via your apple watch 
>>>>> via bt headset? Not happening.
>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Kevin Chao <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are calls heard through these Bluetooth headsets when connected to 
>>>>>> iPhone, but are not on Watch?
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:50 PM Scott Granados <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I just got my pairing done with an Era.  I’ll test this and see if I can 
>>>>>> replicate.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’m experiencing some odd behavior with my watch when I connect it to a 
>>>>>>> bluetooth headset. I can hear voiceover just fine but, calls are not 
>>>>>>> routed to the bt headset which is kinda the entire point. lol.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’ve gone into settings/general/accessibility on my iPhone and set call 
>>>>>>> routing to bluetooth headset. No dice.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So, I’ve tried 2 bt devices. My sennheiser momentum over ear wireless 
>>>>>>> headphones, and a jawbone era.  I get the same behavior with both.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any suggestions and, are others seeing this behavior?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks.
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