And you can have up to 5 setup on the device so you've got a good chance of 
getting it right if they have all setup.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 8:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

You should be able to dust the phone for prints and see which ones are in 
contact with the surface?

Plus you only have 10, you could try at least 8 of them probably with out issue.


Good thought though, this is the type of stuff the investigators think about so 
it’s a good effort to try to think about the problem from their angle.

Great responses Michael, thanks for the thought provokers.

> On Feb 18, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Michael Malver <mmal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Maybe he chose not to activate the fingerprint reader. Even if he did, how 
> would you know which finger he chose? If you didn't get the fingers 
> absolutely right the first time, you could destroy the data on the phone.
> 
> Michael
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 1:10 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Karen, you raise a really really good question.  Why don’t they just use the 
>> fingerprint of the phone owner.  He’s dead anyway so you don’t have to worry 
>> about his specific rights, he’s dead.:)  Couldn’t they lift a print or even 
>> a finger and just use that?
>> 
>> Now I really smell a rat since they had the body and had a means in.
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not only is Apple 100% correct here, the FBI is not using other doors, such 
>>> as the fingerprints of  those involved.
>>> A master key like the one the FBI desires seeing created is simply unwise 
>>> to develop.  Hackers have anoth leeway, and no one should have  their 
>>> privacy compromised in this fashion.
>>> After  all consider how often the government has themselves been 
>>> hacked, not only could this key be abused by the government, it 
>>> could be stolen by others. Just my take, Karen
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Wonder if anyone else is following Tim Cook’s position against being 
>>>> forced to cripple the security on iPhones.  Anyone have any comments?
>>>> 
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