Hi, I have downloaded biple pro, desktop bible and accordance to my Mac. The desktop bible has limited accessibility and the others seem to allow no accessibility. There are tons of unlabled and nonresponsive buttons. Any good suggestion will be appreciated. I am trying to leave the windows based computers and go all of the way with the Mac, but locating an accessible bible library is prohibiting my progress. Percy Garrett
From: David Griffith Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 4:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Problem with Logging On after Update. I hope that my earlier email came through explaining in detail what I found and the eventual solution. In brief you have to treat the user group element on the logon as a unannounced button on the logon screen. The problem was caused by a login required after a maintnance update which required a restart. I have never before encountered this screen before when I have agreed any OS maintenance update. Normally after an update the Mac restarts into the updated OS without any intervention on my part. . On this latest update though the update stalls and will not complete unless you start Voiceover manually and log in using the instructions I posted earlier. Now the update has completed hopefully this problem will disappear. David Griffith On 17/04/2016 21:32, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: I have the latest update on my I Mac and Mac Mini and I have never seen the screen that David has referred to. However, if a login screen did come up, I have it set like my work windows machine, where I put in my name and password. Other than that, if I don’t do that, then it would automatically log me in. I’m sure you can set your login in preferences if you go to usernames and accounts can’t you? As stated before, I haven’t encountered many bugs as I did a clean install before I put Elcap on both machines. Kawal. On 17 Apr 2016, at 17:35, Jonathan Cohn <[email protected]> wrote: David, Just to be clear, the only options available are Password, Shutdown, reboot? What does VO-F1 say for this screen. What happens if you type escape. Best wishes, Jonathan On 17 Apr 2016, at 11:47, David Griffith <[email protected]> wrote: dthanks - I was not clear enough in my explanation of the issue. This problem suddenly appeared after a normal maintenance update today, not a install of any kind. In addition my User account is identical to my apple ID so there should not be any issue there. However on this new logon screen, which has appeared in defiance of my system settings not to require a log on, and which has never appeared before, there is nowhere that voiceover sees to enter a User ID. The only visible to Voiceover edit box is just the password field. After entering this you are then locked into just sleep, shutdown and restart as your options. I strongly recommend that that people do not install this update if this is the consequence. I remember a Mac friend ringing me to complain about this issue which occured for him also some time ago so it may be a rogue bug in the OS, it is certainly annoying. David Griffith On 17/04/2016 16:32, Basioli George wrote: david this is your user account login and if you did a clean install you need to create a user login that is not the apple login On Apr 17, 2016, at 7:52 AM, David Griffith <[email protected]> wrote: I have not been on my Mac much recently as I have got pretty disillusioned by various annoyances and bugs which seem to abound on the Mac nowadays. I installed the latest El Kapitan update today to see if that resolved any matters only to be confronted by a whole new range of access barriers. I had my Mac set to not require a logon but all of a sudden I am required to provide one. I can turn Voiceover on and enter my password but the only buttons then available to me in the dialogue are sleep, restart and shut down. I can see nothing about entering an Apple ID. So all of a sudden I am locked completely out of a very expensive piece of kit. Has anybody else encountered this and is there is any solution for a Voiceover user? 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