This sounds more like an HTML 5 feature rather than a browser or screan reader feature.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Monday, 16 May 2016 12:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Using Aria on the web So, basically, Facebook was only one example of many. But, what you're saying, if I'm understanding is that regardless the page, just hit the key, making sure I'm not in a text area when I do so? --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Phone: (704) 256-8010. ----- Original Message ----- From: Devin Prater<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 8:06 PM Subject: Re: Using Aria on the web As it states on the Facebook accessibility site, nothing needs to be done. Just press the key, and it'll work. Currently, you have to be in "group navigation mode" for voiceover to speak when moving from status to status in Facebook, in the newsfeed, but besides that everything works fine. Sent from my iPhone On May 15, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: So, we are having a discussion on the Windows 10 mailing list about something which has really got me thinking on the mac side of things about this. Someone, in summary, wrote in asking how to rewind, play/pause and fast forward, with Youtube. It was advised to them to press J for rewind, K for play/pause, and l for fast forward. Clearly, these are being coded by Aria, if I had to guess. Either that or it's just html5, but my guess is the former. At any rate, I'm seeing lots of web sites these days pop up like this. The main Facebook site is another one. Realize, I'm speaking of the full web site, not the mobile version. You can do things there like hit C to comment, S, I think it is for a new status message, J and K to move back and forward through your list of statuses from your friends, etc. So, here's the thing. In Windows, most screen readers have a browse mode type of thing. So, JAWS, for instance calls it the virtual PC cursor, and when turned off, your in what is known as forms mode. Window-Eyes calls it Browse Mode, and, I could be wrong, but I think NVDA calls it the same thing. Sorry to throw so much off topic Windows based stuff in this message, but I have to in order for you to get the concept of my over all question as it relates to Voiceover on the mac. Normally, in Windows, these browse modes have to be disabled in order for these keystrokes to work. For example, in JAWS, normally if you hit J, that jumps to a certain line number on the page. K will jump you to your next placemarker, and I think L is for the next list if I'm not mistaking. So in order for it to not be interpreted as such, and pass that key to the actual web browser, one either has to pass the key through, or more commonly, just turn off browse mode altogether for the time being. Well, now getting back to the mac side of things, Voiceover in html content areas, such as in Safari, don't have a virtual buffer. They just basically render as is. When in a text field, just start typing, for example. NO need to shut off browse mode. Now yes, there is single letter navigation which you can use in combination with quick nav, but let's just assume for a minute that the user isn't using that, nor is using quick nav. They simply are just using VO+left and right arrow conventionally, and nothing more. If they need to jump by heading, rather than hitting h, they're hitting command+VO+H. This said, how do you get those Aria keystrokes to work? Does one first have to hit VO+Tab to pass the next key through, or is that not necessary? Is there some mode you gotta get Voiceover into for it to work? I've not seen anything, and believe me, I'm extremely advanced of a Voiceover user. You'd think if so, I'd a seen it by now. Is it more just a matter do the keystroke anywhere making sure first to not be focused in a text area where you're typing in the characters? Yeah, you get the point. How's this done? Chris. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected] The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
