Well I guess I believe that given the way things are today there are times when pain is subscription comes out cheaper than if you went the other way. For example with Apple Music if I wasn't paying a preferred subscription and got all the music I've gotten from Apple Music I'd be broken whole lot more. Also I think I'm getting a pretty good deal with my windows 365 with when I get it and the number of devices I can use it on
David Tanner >From my iPhone 6 S > On Jun 9, 2016, at 11:08 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries > <[email protected]> wrote: > > One clarification, "leading software" should have been "leasing software". > Sometimes my fingers don't go where I tell them :) > > CB > >> On 6/9/16 12:07 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> Good points, Chris. >> >> I've long felt that upgrade shouldn't need to be free. If a developer works >> to build new features into their software, they should be able to charge for >> them. Then I as the consumer can decide whether those upgrades matter to me >> or not. If they do I simply pay for the upgrade. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >>> On Jun 9, 2016, at 10:57 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> My only concern is that leading software can lead to some developers >>> slacking off if they have their app pretty much working correctly. Back in >>> the day people kept upgrading computers and apps because the new ones were >>> faster and the apps had lots of new features. At some point the computers >>> got fast enough that I'm not really itching for new hardware all that often >>> and certain apps have pretty much all the features I care about. Whats an >>> app developer to do if I think their existing version works just fine? No >>> more revenue. Say they make a word processor and have pretty much got all >>> the basics down. I'm not as interested in paying a monthly/annual fee just >>> to keep using it as is. Sure it would be nice to have the new xyz feature >>> that lets me handle some obscure task easier but, for the most part, I'm >>> already set. >>> >>> Maybe it's a generational thing. I like to own my media and not pay a >>> monthly fee for streaming and I like to own my apps. I don't mind paying a >>> larger fee up front and then decide down the road, when I'm good and ready, >>> to pay again because the developer has added enough new things that are >>> valuable to me. Actually, there are free apps where I wish I had the option >>> to pay and avoid all the in-app purchase/advertising junk. >>> >>> CB >>> >>>> On 6/9/16 10:11 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>> It is true that change is a constant, and that we all have to be able to >>>> adapt to it. But that does not mean we should blindly roll over and >>>> passively accept whatever changes come our way. If you don't critically >>>> evaluate change and advocate for what you believe is right, you have no >>>> one but yourself to blame if you end up with a future that you do not >>>> like. You can't always stop it, but you can at least be a voice at the >>>> table. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>>> On Jun 9, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Daniel Miller <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I don't exactly see how this is a bad thing for users, but keep on >>>>> keeping on, I suppose yes, the ads suck, but it's called change. >>>>> Everybody needs to adapt. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 9, 2016, at 8:04 AM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yep, this is a great thing for the developers, a not so great thing for >>>>>> the users. In my case, if my only choice is to subscribe, I will simply >>>>>> not purchase. >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>>> On Jun 8, 2016, at 10:08 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Daring Fireball (which, I think it’s fair to say, is a PR arm for >>>>>>> Apple) just published this. Link: >>>>>>> http://daringfireball.net/2016/06/the_new_app_store >>>>>>> <http://daringfireball.net/2016/06/the_new_app_store> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank God ads are only in the States, for now. But it, and the whole >>>>>>> concept of subscription pricing, is a disappointment to me, and not >>>>>>> what I buy Apple for. Still, it fits in pretty nicely with a lot of >>>>>>> the other recent things Apple have been doing, so I probably shouldn’t >>>>>>> be surprised. 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