Who even said they're announcing these machines on Monday or Tuesday? Lmao hilarious.
Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus > On Jun 11, 2016, at 5:15 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: > > NO, > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland > Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2016 4:06 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros? > > Wait! > > OK, maybe it's now me! that's reading too much into things, but, are you > saying you started this rumor on list about the touch bar thing just to see > what people would do? If so, then, um? That wasn't very nice. LOL! > --- > Christopher Gilland > JAWS Certified, 2016. > Training Instructor. > > clgillan...@gmail.com > Phone: (704) 256-8010. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Simon Fogarty > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 10:52 PM > Subject: RE: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros? > > Most of us normally do but I thought I’d start that little rumour and see > what happened. > > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller > Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2016 2:50 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros? > > Lol I forgot about the potential of Siri. > > Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus > > On Jun 10, 2016, at 10:47 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: > > Hey what about the rumour that the new apple notebooks are going to have this > touch bar but also siri which will allow you to turn voiceover on by just > saying hey siri! > > Wont that be great. > > > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall > Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2016 1:07 PM > To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros? > > I've tried to stay away from all the speculative threads, but I wanted to > remind everyone that this isn't Apple's first rodeo. Plus, this is all over > rumors, backed up by a few images; we have no real idea what will happen in > the future. What if this is all false, and it doesn't happen? What if this > bar has taptic feedback, so that touching it simulates touching keys? What if > the keys are there, but each is a screen instead of plastic? > > But let's assume the worst: a smooth, glass surface that provides no feedback > when touched, unless VoiceOver is on. Why the automatic assumptions that > Apple will forget about VoiceOver? Remember the rumors that flew when the > Apple Watch was presented, and didn't use its internal speaker on stage? > People jumped to the conclusion that it lacked such a speaker and thus would > be totally inaccessible. The Watch on my wrist tells me that was a false > alarm. Or when, you know, Apple pretty much invented screen-reading on a > device with no buttons, in the iPod Touch and then iPhone? Or when it > included great VoiceOver features in the (smooth and featureless) glass of > the Apple TV 4 remote? Or when it made sure that there was some form of > audible feedback when booting into an encrypted system, even though VoiceOver > couldn't be used at the login prompts? > > But let's throw out history and assume Apple does the thing some people think > they will: they make this Mac, and don't include any way of toggling > VoiceOver on. No simple trackpad gesture, no holding the command key and > tapping twice anywhere on the bar, nothing whatsoever. In that incredibly > unlikely case, you simply don't buy the newest Mac until a software update > fixes the problem. I really don't understand the negativity here, is all I'm > saying. > On Jun 10, 2016, at 18:09, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: > > If they replace the function keys with the touch sensitive bar,I along with > probably most of this list will lose a lot of respect for them as a company. > I understand that they're supposed to integrate touch ID into this bar, but > there are several other places on the machine itself or touch ID could be > integrated without having to lose physical function keys. I have a feeling > the Tim Cook led Apple is valuing form over function, which for people with > disabilities, isn't always the best idea. Lenovo attempted this no function > key idea with one of their machines, and guess what? It absolutely bombed, > even for people that did not have a disability. > > Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus > > > > On Jun 10, 2016, at 6:00 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Honestly, totally agreed. > --- > Christopher Gilland > JAWS Certified, 2016. > Training Instructor. > > clgillan...@gmail.com > Phone: (704) 256-8010. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 5:57 PM > Subject: Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros? > > > I think the touch bar is stupid, enough said. > > Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus > > > > On Jun 10, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hi there, > > Rumor has it that the soon forth coming Mac book pros will feature a touch > bar instead of function keys on the keyboard. This raises an interesting > question. Assuming that Voice Over is turned off on any one of the new Mac > book Pros that a blind user goes up to, how is a blind person supposed to > turn on Voice Over if there are no physical function keys but instead a touch > bar? I think maybe I can guess. If a blind person needs to turn on Voice > OVer, it should be possible by pressing VO+touch anyware on the bar and that > should do it. Or else, triple tap the bar to turn Voice OVer on. 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