Hi Simon.

I find your generosity astonishing my friend.  Do you not think it would be 
cheeper getting a house-cleaner rather than spend all that lovely cash flying 
me over and ofcourse accomodating me in a five star hotel, from Scotland, just 
to wash your dishes.  This must be the height of lazyness!


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Simon Fogarty 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 11:34 AM
  Subject: RE: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back


  Andy,

   

  Could you come and clean my dishs for me when you’ve finished your’s?

   

  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy
  Sent: Friday, 8 July 2016 7:57 AM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back

   

  Hi Arnold.

   

  I purchased my beutiful 27 inch Imac about 5 weeks ago now and guess what?    
I've learned nothing apart from a few basic commands, but guess what?  That's 
the way I like it!

   

  I'm going to slow right down and think, rather than act and enjoy each and 
every new experience and see this learning experience as an important milestone 
in my life, rather than a very difficult task, which I suppose, it aint!

   

   

  I'm in absolutely no hurry and as long as I've got my book and I'm a member 
of this list and I hold onto my windows for email for the meantime, then I'm a 
happy chappy, because, slowly but surely, I'll learn this new OS but 
importantly, I'll enjoy it!

   

  Now I'm off to wash the evening dishes and that's something completely 
different!

   

  Glad to hear you are going to stick with it my friend.

   

  Very best wishes.

  Andy.

   

   

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Katie Zodrow 

    To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

    Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 6:47 PM

    Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back

     

    Hi Arnold.

    That's great! I'm glad you're looking into getting a used Mac. Then you can 
continue  learning the OS some more on your days off work and you probably 
won't be as rushed trying to learn everything.
    Katie
    Sent from my iPhone


    On Jul 7, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> wrote:

      Quite literally, my time was up.  As you will read in some other 
messages, I am checking into some used equipment.  Consider my taking the new 
one back the end of the chapter, not necessarily the end of the story.

       

      Arnold Schmidt

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Simon Fogarty 

        To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

        Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 6:50 AM

        Subject: RE: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back

         

        Hi arnld,

        Just wondering why you didn’t keep it and put windows on it in bootcamp?

        That would  give you vboth platforms and you can keep learnig on the 
apple os.

        From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
        Sent: Thursday, 7 July 2016 8:37 AM
        To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
        Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back

        Arnold, if you ever get another one I would like to offer you some free 
one-on-one support with assisting you with your Mac in your tough struggles. My 
information that I would like you to have been say is below in my signature. I 
had my Mac from most two years and I don't regret getting it. I will say this, 
I can probably work a few more websites now that I couldn't work with Jaws with 
my Mac or my iPho and this message is not just for Arnold this is for anybody 
who has trouble with the Mac still free to use interviews my information in my 
signature as well as you wish.

        Joseph Hudson

        Email

        jhud7...@gmail.com

        I device support

        Telephone

        2543007667

        Skype

        joseph.hudson89 facebook

        https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

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        FaceTime/iMessage

        jhud7...@yahoo.com

          On Jul 6, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> 
wrote:

          I wand to thank everyone for the help I have received over the past 
two weeks, concerning my Mac Mini.  However, I ended up taking it back after 
all yesterday, which was my last day to return it.  

          To attempt to make a long message not quite so long, I guess I just 
wasn't getting it as much as I think I should have been.  Every time I would 
turn it on, it seemed that I still was having to look up how to do things that 
I thought I had already learned, and it definitely was getting more frustrating 
than fun, being that I could very easily do those things in Windows, or on my 
iPhone.  And in the end, what was going to be the real benefit to me?  ITunes 
allegedly easier to use, and being able to install the OS myself.  

          Being that yesterday was going to be my last day, I started out 
intending to put in a lot of extra time with it, before the time for my 
paratransit trip to return it arrived, which I still thought I was going to 
cancel.  So, I decided to log into my bank web site, which I had not attempted 
yet.  I successfully passed the first step in the two-step verification, but 
then, no matter what I tried, I couldn't get it to read the security question 
it wanted answered.  No problem in Windows, or my iPhone, no go on this Mac 
mini.  I could tell  the location for the answer field, I could find what 
should have been the question field, it just wouldn't read anything.  I typed 
in the answer to one of my security questions, which, of course, was the wrong 
answer for the question it was asking.  I am sure the inability to get it to 
read the security question was mine, not the Mac Mini's .  So, I closed Safari, 
then decided to turn on keyboard help, just to try differing combinations of 
keys I had never tried before to see what it would say.  I was trying the 
function keys, and hit a key at the very right end of them, and it just shut 
off.  Nothing I did would get VoiceOver talking again.  I tried the 
three-finger triple tap on the track pad,then the three-finger double tap which 
is what it is on my iPhone,  turned the track pad commander off and on, turned 
the whole computer off and back on, nothing.  And this was my last day.

          I wish I had had 30 days.  If I had had, I still don't think it would 
have gone back.  But I didn't want to be one of those people who never quite 
got it, but it was too late to take it back, and I had over 900 dollars 
invested in the thing.  Even though it would have put me lower in my checking 
account than I wanted to be, I should have kept the Windows 10 Lenovo I bought 
from Costco, and the Mac Mini, too, knowing one of them was going back.  I 
bought the Lenovo first, after having talked myself out of buying a Mac, again. 
 Sometime before Microsoft stops supporting Vista next spring, there will be 
another good deal come through Costco.

          I always had wanted to try a Mac, I am glad I did.  But it ended up 
being so much tedium and frustration to me, as compared to what I already know, 
with not all that much seeming benefit in the end. I fully expected not to know 
what I was doing for a while, but I thought it would have begun to get easier 
by yesterday, which, I guess, it wasn't, even with the two books I have.  

          Arnold Schmidt  

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