i just have to remind myself of two things. one, when i buy not to skimp on ram 
and hard drive because I will have it longer than most people keep theirs. and 
that at least I don't have to pay freedom scientific or some other company for 
third party speech software. later, Max 
On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I do realize that there is both WiFi and Lightning storage, my thoughts 
> though were whether there may be something in the future that works with iOS 
> for external storage.  Maybe there is and I'm out of the loop, but I haven't 
> noticed it.  With respect to pricing, I'm only quoting Canadian pricing from 
> apple.ca where a 13" MacBook Air with 256 GB Flash storage and 8 GB RAM goes 
> for $1449 CAD and a 13" MacBook Pro with 256 GB storage and 8 GB RAM goes for 
> $1799 CAD.  Note that the Pro has a faster, more powerful processor, Retina 
> Display, Force-Touch Trackpad and more.  So, you are getting more computer 
> for the extra expenditure.  Each of these are upgradable with more RAM, more 
> storage etc.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 13:15, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> There are already both wifi and Lightning storage devices, for the record. As 
> to slots on iOS, I doubt it. Apple released the Retina MacBook last year, 
> including only one port aside from the headphone jack. This suggests less 
> expansion, not more, especially on their mobile products. I, too, have no 
> special knowledge or anything, but I can't imagine them allowing expansion 
> slots to take up space.
> 
> The Air is, I believe, about $200 cheaper than the Pro. That depends heavily 
> on what processor, drive, and ram configuration you choose, though. I find 
> the Apple Store app on iOS to be a good way of building different Macs to 
> look at their prices, though you can, of course, do that on apple.com too.
>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 14:28, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim; I appreciate the feedback. i wonder how much cheaper the air would 
>> be. Thanks, Max 
>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Max,
>>> 
>>> Apple seems to be focusing on the Cloud and keeping their devices slim and 
>>> fairly free of, what they might consider, extraneous ports.  So, I don't 
>>> believe that SD slots or some such expansion will be on their radar.  I'm 
>>> not an insider, nor do I have any more insight than most others, it just 
>>> seems to be the trend historically with Apple products.  Who's to say that 
>>> someone may not develop reliable, quick and portable storage solutions that 
>>> will work with WiFi, Bluetooth or Lightning technology accessible from your 
>>> iDevice.  Regarding the MacBook Pro or Air, both will do what you're 
>>> hoping, although the Air would be less expensive.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 10:21, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim; My main concerns are video conferencing and managing my websites. 
>>> So, I think it has to be mac book air or pro. I actually miss my 12 inch 
>>> ibook 4 because like you say what blind person needs a big screen. I would 
>>> probably go with the 13 because of the sd slot. question, do you think this 
>>> means future versions of the iPhone may also offer additional storage? i 
>>> know now we can move info between devices using the cloud, but having that 
>>> option would be nice. thanks, max 
>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Actually, if purchasing new, you won't find a MacBook Pro with built-in 
>>>> DVD drive anymore.  When it comes to a decision between the Pro or the 
>>>> Air, you need to look at what you want from your computer and how much 
>>>> you're willing to spend.  the Pros have better processors, better 
>>>> displays, usually can accept more RAM and are simply meant for more 
>>>> powerful work.  Of course, with all this, comes a higher ticket price, 
>>>> and, why does a blind user require a better display?  the Air is a good 
>>>> machine, meant more for the everyday user.  It can still do most things 
>>>> that most people would be doing, and actually do it well if you don't take 
>>>> the least expensive model.  The iPad Pro is a very nice machine, and iOS 
>>>> is likely the way things are moving towards in the future, but it will be 
>>>> a while before they become one.  You can do most everything on an iOS 
>>>> device excepting enterprise tasks, so that's an option as well.  the 
>>>> keyboard access with VO on an iDevice is there, but no where near what can 
>>>> be done on a laptop or Desktop unit.
>>>> 
>>>> So, if you're preferring the MacBook Pro/Air to the iPad, and you're not a 
>>>> power user nor managing enterprise architecture, then  the MacBook Air 
>>>> will do just fine.  Don't cheap out on specs though, make sure to get at 
>>>> least 8 GB of RAM, at least a 500 GB SSD and upgrade your processor.  This 
>>>> will make sure that it lasts you a good long time and maintains its 
>>>> usefulness.
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 09:32, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I think I'm still wanting a full computer and not a tablet. Maybe I'll go 
>>>> all in and get a mac book and a 9 inch iPad. but assuming I am staying 
>>>> with a mac book do i want a mac book pro or a mac book air? I'm thinking 
>>>> pro but without the dvd cd rom. I mean I hardly ever need one, and when I 
>>>> do; it would be so much more convenient to just carry a little external 
>>>> drive or portable dvd player instead. what do you think? Max 
>>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 4:38 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Yes I've used the 12 and 9.7 inch iPad pros.
>>>>> The 12 inch is to large and chunkie for my liking.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The 9.7 is a nicer size but heavier than I'd like to carry around 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's got everything you need plus the app store for things you don't.
>>>>> Still no I wouldn't get one but that's a personal preference du to 
>>>>> requiring both mac os and windows for working on enterprise systems 
>>>>> But if all your doing is surfing the web, writing documents or sending 
>>>>> and receiving emails etc then hey the iPad is a good option, I still 
>>>>> think though you might want to look at the iPad air2 and a folio case 
>>>>> with keyboard which will halve the cost of he iPad pro and keyboard,
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2016 1:58 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Was decided on a mac book air 13 inch until talking with my brother. He 
>>>>> was going on and on abut the new iPad pro 13 inch. He said that with the 
>>>>> blue tooth keyboard it comes with it can do just about everything you 
>>>>> need. Have any of you had your hands on the new iPad pro? If you could 
>>>>> only pick one would you go with a mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad 
>>>>> pro? Thanks, Max 
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