Wow. Thank you for all that information. All I was told was that they did indeed drop the anilog output. I didn't know the rest. It was a very brief call though because we both had to be doing other things but we both wanted to find out what was up with that.
On 12/4/09, Kieren <[email protected]> wrote: > Here is a direct quote clarifying issues somewhat that I posted on > another thread > > Quote > > Ok I see there is a lot of too-ing and fro-ing about what works and > what doesnt and why not with the 2009 mac mini's. > > here is the lowdown. for a start the mini dvi to composite video > adaptors which did work on pre 2009 model mini's will NOT work on > 2009+ models. > Apple in their infinite wisdom have dropped the analog output which > these adaptors used to pretend there was a monitor connected. > The mini dvi connection is now DVI-D (Digital only) previous models > had DVI-I which contained both analog and digital signals > you can tell the difference between the full size DVI connectors by > checking if it has 4 pins around the larger flat pin at 1 end. These > are DVI-I. > The DVI-D connectors are missing the 4 pins AND have a slightly > smalller flat pin hence some monitors not connecting to the included > mini DVI to DVI-D connector that comes with the new Minis. > > Ok I hope this clarifies things a bit ;) > > I had the same issue with the analog output, admittedly my mini is > used for a HTPC but the problem is the same. > I eventually had to buy 2 things. > 1. a mini DVI to VGA adaptor - AU $19 > 2, usb powered VGA to composite video Convertor - AU $50 delivered on > ebay. > these 2 combined will do what the analog adaptor did by providing a > pretend monitor output. > the convertor has composite video out, s-video out (will be digital > pass through) and vga passthrough will also be digital. > here are 2 links i found from a simple google search > http://www.newtechindustries.com/newtech/computer/vga_to_composite_svideo_converter.html > http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26804 > > I hope this helps clarify some issues over adaptors etc. > > end quote > > On Dec 5, 9:05 am, David Denne <[email protected]> wrote: >> Oh its alright we were all newbies at some point right? I'm going to >> have to unfortunately say since I just talked to one of the hardware >> engineers I keep in contact with and from what you guys are saying >> here that it was probably of course unintentionally removed. >> >> On 12/4/09, Rick Harmon <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Sorry for my mistakes here, I'm a mac newbie. What the other posters >> > said >> > is correct. regardless of adapter it does not work without the monitor >> > plugged in. Once I shutdown the mac completely and powered back up it >> > didn't work any longer with the monitor unplugged from the adapter. >> >> > Rick >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "David Denne" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:56 PM >> > Subject: Re: -- Re: -- Re: mac mini >> >> > Oh now I see about saphari. sorry for the unrelated post then. >> > Rick thank you for pointing out the obvious, sometimes I need that. >> > My appoligies >> >> > On 12/4/09, Rick Harmon <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi David, >> >> >> See my latest post. I was in error and you are correct. >> >> >> Rick >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "David McLean" <[email protected]> >> >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:48 PM >> >> Subject: -- Re: -- Re: mac mini >> >> >> Rick, How does it work using Safari? >> >> On Dec 4, 2009, at 7:45 PM, Rick Harmon wrote: >> >> >>> Funny I'm using one here and it's working just fine. >> >> >>> Rick >> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "David McLean" <[email protected]> >> >>> To: <[email protected]> >> >>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:42 PM >> >>> Subject: -- Re: mac mini >> >> >>> The new Mac Mini, with or without a mini dvi adapter, will NOT work >> >>> unless >> >> >>> a >> >>> monitor is connected. >> >>> End of story. >> >>> On Dec 4, 2009, at 7:25 PM, louie wrote: >> >> >>>> Just one more time so I have this correct. >> >>>> A DVI to VGA adapter will allow the mini to work with out a monitor. >> >> >>>> On Dec 4, 2009, at 4:16 PM, David Denne wrote: >> >> >>>>> Oh alright I see. well yes then you are correct there. I don't know >> >>>>> if >> >>>>> you read my profile or not but but I beta test VO so that is my hole >> >>>>> reason for coming on here. I want to get any feedback possible >> >>>>> whethere it be negative or postitive feedback. >> >> >>>>> On 12/4/09, Rick Harmon <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>> Hi David, >> >> >>>>>> Yes I realize this, I was just commenting on the post where the >> >>>>>> person said >> >>>>>> the newest mac minis didn't require a display to be plugged in to >> >>>>>> the mini >> >>>>>> for VO to work right. I have a brand new mac mini here and it does >> >>>>>> not work >> >>>>>> as the poster stated when no adapter is used. >> >> >>>>>> Rick >> >> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>>>> From: "David Denne" <[email protected]> >> >>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:57 PM >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: mac mini >> >> >>>>>> Hello rick. Keep one of the monitor adapters pluged in to your Mac >> >>>>>> mini. It will cause your mac mini to think there is a monitor and >> >>>>>> it >> >>>>>> should work as you want it to. If not I'll see what I can do to >> >>>>>> figure >> >>>>>> this out. >> >> >>>>>> On 12/4/09, Rick Harmon <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>>> I'm a new mac mini owner and just purchased the november version >> >>>>>>> of the >> >>>>>>> mini. I unhooked my mini DVI to VGA adapter and tried to play a >> >>>>>>> DVD and >> >>>>>>> got >> >>>>>>> a DVD initialization error and DVD Player busy notice. SO I'd say >> >>>>>>> this >> >>>>>>> advisor is wrong. >> >> >>>>>>> Rick >> >> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>>>>> From: "louie" <[email protected]> >> >>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:27 PM >> >>>>>>> Subject: mac mini >> >> >>>>>>> Hi all, >> >>>>>>> I just got off the phone with a mac adviser. I was told that the >> >>>>>>> new >> >>>>>>> Mac mini does not need any special adapter to work with out a >> >>>>>>> monitor. >> >> >>>>>>> louie >> >>>>>>> [email protected] >> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >> >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >>>>>>> Groups >> >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >> >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >> >>>>>>> [email protected]. >> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>>>>>> [email protected]. >> >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >> >>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >> >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >>>>>>> Groups >> >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >> >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >> >>>>>>> [email protected]. >> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>>>>>> [email protected]. >> >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >> 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