Kawal,

The HDMI port is a similar size to USB
It has more of a D shape to it but the ends tend to have angles sliced off to 
give it that D shape.

About 0.75 % of an inch or 20 mm long give or take,
 The port or ports could be on  the side / edge or rare of the tv  my Samsung 
tv is 8 years old an LED tv and it has 4 HDMI ports,

As well as 1 optical  2 USB and a few others including vga


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Tuesday, 30 August 2016 8:07 AM
To: Macvisionaries <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Using Apple TV the fourth generation without a TV

Hi Tim.

I don’t know what one of those ports are or what they look like.  If someone 
has one of these Samsung TV’s could you tell me please which is the port for 
the Apple TV forth Gen so that if I do get one eventually then I’ll be able to 
use it.  However, I’m not sure why one of these TV’s would benefit me apart 
from playing my I phone content on my Samsung TV.  I’m not in to netflicks or 
any other subscription provider so would only want it for free content.  At the 
moment I don’t know why I’d want one of those TV’s, unless you want to play 
your Itune content on it.

Thanks.

Kawal.
On 29 Aug 2016, at 20:32, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:

Hi,

The Apple TV simply connects with an HDMI cable.  Therefore, it should be no 
problem plugging it into a Samsung or any other TV model for that matter as 
long as it has HDMI input.  It is extremely difficult to plug it into the 
incorrect port on the back of the TV as the HDMI cable will only fit into the 
HDMI port on the TV.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 29, 2016, at 00:46, Kawal Gucukoglu 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Can you play an apple TV for output to be sent to your Mac or Mac mini?  I’d 
get one when I could afford it if that is the case.  I do have a Talking TV 
(one of those Samsung talking TV’s) hence not getting an Apple TV.  I would not 
want to connect it to my Samsung TV as I would not know what socket to put it 
in as if I went to the place where I bought it from (John Lewis) for all you UK 
subscribers, I don’t think they would let me plug in an Apple TV in to one of 
their Samsung models.  Anyway the last time I went there to look at an Apple TV 
it was sealed and they would not unseal it for me to have a feel of.

Kawal.
On 29 Aug 2016, at 05:14, Kevin Chao 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Yep, I can play Netflix, HBO GO, etc. using BLuetooth speakers

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 8:23 PM Mary Otten 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Kevin, just to be clear. You were saying that you can just send the audio 
output from your AppleTV fourth-generation to a pair of Bluetooth speakers, and 
all video plays fine. Including things like Netflix HBO, all the things that 
would have some  protection on them. They all play fine. That's really 
surprising but good.

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On Aug 28, 2016, at 6:28 PM, Kevin Chao 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I've it connected to Bluetooth speakers and it doesn't require TV to be ON.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:40 AM Simon Fogarty 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
HI Mary,

 I know some sound systems now have an HDMI input which you can plug in the 
likes of a blueray or I guess apple tv and then have another HDMI output cable 
to your tv so that everything goes through the stereo first before the tv,

 Whether you can do this with the tv I can't say

My apple tv 4 is only connected to my Samsung tv, where as with the apple tv 2 
I had an optical connector which allowed me to connect to my Logitech stereo 
speakers without the tv and I could play videos / tv and music through the 
sound system with out the tv screan active.

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 On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2016 12:30 PM
To: VIPhone 'RobH. ' via 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
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Subject: Using Apple TV the fourth generation without a TV

Apple viz. recently published a podcast done by Lisa Sullenger on this topic. 
She mentions a specific HDMI to audio converter that she used with her stereo. 
The one thing she did not touch upon in her podcast has to do with an issue 
that has been raised on these lists before regarding the usability of this 
system with video content that is protected. I can't remember the name of the 
specification or coding or whenever it is involved that must be seen in order 
for the AppleTV to pick up the content. Generally, if the AppleTV is not 
connected to an actual video output which is actually turned on, you can't get 
a lot of this protected video content. So I am wondering about this system with 
this particular converter. Has anyone used it or any other converter connecting 
AppleTV fourth-generation to a stereo with no TV present and still able to 
receive the full complement of all the video channels, such as Netflix, HBO etc.
Mary


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