No, I don't believe so. Several android devices, such as Nexus 6P and even my Nexus six, support this standard. Maybe it's not a standard. Maybe it's a protocol. All I know is, it is supposed to make Bluetooth audio better. I need to find out how it's spelled that would really help. There have been various reviews of Bluetooth devices decrying the fact that apples I devices don't support this, whereas lots of android ones do.
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: > > Is this part of the bluetooth 4.2 spec? i know the new apple products are > speaking bluetooth 4.2. > >> On Sep 3, 2016, at 4:13 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I think I misunderstood the post about the headphone jack and where it was >> regarding this Griffin device. What I want to know, and maybe will find out >> after they do a teardown, is whether the new iPhone is going to support that >> standard that sounds like avtex, it's for Bluetooth. Lots of android devices >> have it, but Apple doesn't. It makes Bluetooth audio better. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mary, it's an attempt to solve the problem in that the Griffin device >>> has a 3.5mm jack. But you then pair the device to your iPhone using >>> Bluetooth 4.1. So depending on the Bluetooth stack in the iPhone 7, we >>> could hit the latency issues that we all know about with VO and BT devices. >>> If the Bluetooth stack is significantly improved, it could be a work-around >>> of sorts, although of course you've then got yourself in the position where >>> you have to remember to keep your 3.5 jack charged, which hardly represents >>> progress. For people who keep VO talking for long periods, time between >>> charges may not be that long. >>> Jonathan Mosen >>> Mosen Consulting >>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>> http://Mosen.org >>> >>>> On 4/09/2016, at 6:15 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> That wouldn't seem to address this problem at all. It requires a headphone >>>> jack. Maybe it's a nice device, but not for this issue. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ah yes, you are talking about the Griffin addapter which will turn any >>>>> 3.5MM headphone in to a blue tooth set. They will sell it for 19.99 I >>>>> believe. >>>>> >>>>> https://griffintechnology.com/us/itrip-clip-bluetooth-headphone-adapter >>>>> >>>>> This may not solve all of what some believe may be a problem, but, at >>>>> least someone is trying. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>>>> built-in >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!!!!! >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> A few weeks back, i red about a chineeze company or maybe japaneese who >>>>>> had a dummy adapter for later manufacture. This was an adapter with both >>>>>> lightning port and 3.5mm jack. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. sep. 2016 kl. 10.28 skrev Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal has a >>>>>>> huge negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have to >>>>>>> hope the inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they >>>>>>> did this and reverse it. I frequent a forum for IT professionals here >>>>>>> in New Zealand. I'm the only blind person there, and people are >>>>>>> justifiably livid about the removal of the headphone jack. Most people >>>>>>> don't want this, and I suspect based on what has leaked that the >>>>>>> benefits to most people of upgrading will be so incremental that the >>>>>>> lack of a headphone jack will cause a lot of people to sit it out. >>>>>>> That gives me some hope in a situation that has really affected me, >>>>>>> because one thing that this process has taught me since I started >>>>>>> blogging about the possibility of the headphone jack to raise the alarm >>>>>>> at a time when it may have made a difference, is that I was naive to >>>>>>> think that blind people might be any more sensitive to and respectful >>>>>>> of the accessibility needs of others, such as the hearing impaired. I >>>>>>> guess I would like to think that since we know what impact >>>>>>> inaccessibility can have on our own lives, we would be sensitive to the >>>>>>> needs of others, even when the issues didn't affect us directly. But >>>>>>> that has proven a stupid pipe dream on my part, and I've found the >>>>>>> whole thing really upsetting. For the most part, it seems like it's >>>>>>> everyone for themselves these days, and if others are being thrown >>>>>>> under the bus, well too damn bad. >>>>>>> As a hearing aid wearer, I can't use Apple's ear pods. As a hearing aid >>>>>>> wearer, i need to have my phone connected to the headphone jack almost >>>>>>> all the time I use it. Bluetooth latency is abysmal and not viable for >>>>>>> someone who moves through their phone at a good clip. Even if this were >>>>>>> to improve, Bluetooth drains hearing aid batteries in a profound way >>>>>>> and it's difficult to get through an entire business day of use without >>>>>>> the need to charge something. >>>>>>> And if I use the provided lightning adapter, then it appears I can't >>>>>>> then charge my phone while I use my phone. This is the most senseless, >>>>>>> selfish, stupid, user-unfriendly thing Apple has ever done. This >>>>>>> company, which parades their accessibility efforts like some sort of >>>>>>> badge of honour, appears to be about to crap all over one segment of >>>>>>> its accessibility market. >>>>>>> Something isn't automatically the future because Apple says it is. And >>>>>>> they're going too far this time, alienating too many people. Perhaps, >>>>>>> in time, a USB-C-based solution is going to be viable, and receive >>>>>>> carefully managed industry-wide adoption. But Apple isn't using USB-C >>>>>>> on its iDevices. It's using a proprietary port that it doesn't even >>>>>>> offer on its own personal computers, meaning you won't be able to use >>>>>>> the Lightning-based Ear Pods even with a Mac. That's two sets of >>>>>>> headphones you're going to have to carry around with you, unless you >>>>>>> don't mind having an adapter jutting out of the port you want to charge >>>>>>> your phone with. Absolutely absurd. >>>>>>> I believe it was Samsung that recently put out a series of ads mocking >>>>>>> Apple over the potential lack of a headphone jack. They know Apple has >>>>>>> given them a great gift. I just wish Android accessibility were more >>>>>>> viable for daily use. Because once my 6s Plus eventually expires, I'm >>>>>>> really going to be stuck. Hopefully, Apple will have seen sense by then >>>>>>> because there is certainly going to be a backlash. >>>>>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>>>>> Mosen Consulting >>>>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>>>>> http://Mosen.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1/09/2016, at 6:15 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Mary, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My point is simply that, unlike the era of Jobbs, the market, plays an >>>>>>>> active role in what the future brings. We, as consumers, have >>>>>>>> alternatives and it's when we begin to explore these alternatives that >>>>>>>> companies pay attention. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Given Apple's issue with iTunes for Windows and its politically >>>>>>>> ridiculous decision to unilaterally put albums in its users' accounts, >>>>>>>> I'm not so certain that just because it decides something it better >>>>>>>> will make it so. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I remember the fan fair Apple made about its watch--they thought it >>>>>>>> would change the lives of the world. Well, as far as I can tell, my >>>>>>>> world hasn't changed one bit either with or without it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As far as Samsung is concerned, I don't think they'll be so quick to >>>>>>>> follow Apple's lead in the coming future. As one of the executives of >>>>>>>> Samsung recently said, "Samsung is at its best when it leads, not when >>>>>>>> it follows." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My personal position is to just sit back, wait, and see. Fortunately >>>>>>>> for me, I no longer have the desire to run out and purchase the latest >>>>>>>> device just because it is the latest. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:33 PM >>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on >>>>>>>> the iPhone seven >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Mark, >>>>>>>> Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the >>>>>>>> disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the >>>>>>>> storage card thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. >>>>>>>> Also, if the other rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible >>>>>>>> earbuds with the new phone, as well as an adapter to make it possible >>>>>>>> for people to use other headphones. Given the prevalence of Bluetooth >>>>>>>> these days, I suspect that the headphone jack will in fact be gone >>>>>>>> from iPhones forever. Other device makers are already moving in this >>>>>>>> direction. So it isn't just Apple. In fact, they will not be the first >>>>>>>> ones to market without a headphone jack on the phone. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:05 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market accepts >>>>>>>>> the new iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) removing >>>>>>>>> the removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary >>>>>>>>> memory to its flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the >>>>>>>>> market, effectively, rejected the devices in favor of other companies >>>>>>>>> who kept those features. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A couple of years ago, when Apple decided to remove the ability for >>>>>>>>> iOS devices to have their photo content immediately available to PC >>>>>>>>> users upon attaching the device to the computer, the marketplace went >>>>>>>>> crazy and vowed to turn to Android if Apple insisted on forcing >>>>>>>>> people to use iTunes in order to manage photos. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring this >>>>>>>>> feature in the subsequent release of iTunes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, I'll just wait and see for, unless 7 is a complete hit, something >>>>>>>>> tells me that iPhone 8 will bring the jack back (smile). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:43 AM >>>>>>>>> To: MacVisionaries E-Mail List >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on >>>>>>>>> the iPhone seven >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When all the “hubbub” concerning Apple removing the earphone jack >>>>>>>>> first appeared I was certain they (Apple) was going to provide an >>>>>>>>> adapter so potential customers would be able to use their existing >>>>>>>>> earphones with the iPhone 7. 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