And now they are already talking about what is going to be in next years iPhone. People don't have this one in her hands yet. And already the speculation for next year has begun. This is just too much. And the same is largely true for the software side, at least for the OS. There is supposed to be this NDA hush-hush. But everything is all over the mainstream press. The only exception is access ability, because the mainstream doesn't care about it. And we're not supposed to talk about it, because some people still think there's an actual NDA in effect. It only affects us.
Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: > > Mary, well said and so true. We used to have no idea what was coming out > until much closer to the events. > > Anybody remember the cell phones apple left around the bay area to create > publicity? The first was a legitimate mistake where an engineer left his > phone in a bar and it wasn’t out yet. The next year that happened though was > faked / staged. > > Now you have a picture of the new phone almost as soon as the present model > is released. > > Great point Mary. > >> On Sep 10, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I think Jobs was more of a showman. But I also think there's a big >> difference with regard to what we know before an event even starts now than >> there was when he was around. I mean really. What hardware surprises were >> there? Not many. And that has been true for the last several presentations. >> Leaks are all over the place in the tech press these days. It kind of takes >> some of the "wow" factor out. >> >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 5:53 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: >>> >>> That’s funny, I’ve heard the opposite criticism. Apple presentations used >>> to be showier with Jobs. At least, I think he was a much better showman >>> let’s put it that way. I was listening to a discussion on Fox Business the >>> other day how they were lamenting the loss of the jobs era events. >>> >>> I still like it, there’s a certain excitement around apple release day. >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 9, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> I actually listened to it on wednesday but i don’t think i will anymore. >>>> It was more like a show than a presentation. >>>> /A >>>>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 19:58, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This is why I do not listen to these events. I am in no hurry and prefer >>>>> to wait to read the real life experiences of those who jump right on new >>>>> releases. And to read AppleVis. >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/8/2016 10:47 AM, Jenny Wood wrote: >>>>>> Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and >>>>>> a little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in >>>>>> yesterday’s keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes >>>>>> in accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it >>>>>> doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Jenny & Marmalade >>>>>> Phone: (972 989-3894 >>>>>> Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> >>>>>> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI >>>>>> “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, >>>>>> Sometimes gets me in trouble too. >>>>>> But the truth is, >>>>>> I could no more stop dreaming, >>>>>> Than I could make them all come true.” >>>>>> — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net >>>>>>> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as >>>>>>> WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its >>>>>>> Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime >>>>>>> MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind&ForLowVision users? >>>>>>> JustWonderin' >>>>>>> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>>>>>>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. >>>>>>>> Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as >>>>>>>> well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while >>>>>>>> longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> Christopher Gilland >>>>>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>>>>>> Training Instructor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Krasniuk" >>>>>>>> <bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>>>>>>>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone >>>>>>>>> else. Alex Hall can confirm this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Shawn >>>>>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>>>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>>>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson >>>>>>>>>> <stacey...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility >>>>>>>>>> features in IOS10? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Peace, >>>>>>>>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>>>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>>>>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on >>>>>>>>>> the list itself. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner >>>>>>>>>> is Cara Quinn - 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