That’s interesting, I had a decent amount of luck with the iPhone apps at the 
time, I think it was an iPhone 4 I was using at the time to give the time 
frame.  Haven’t tried in years I gave up Dish when I left California.

> On Sep 20, 2016, at 10:28 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  I don't know how it is now, but we used to have dish. And their apps were 
> never accessible at all. Very disappointing. Requests went unheard. Surprise!
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 20, 2016, at 6:37 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net 
> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
> 
>> You’re absolutely right, my mother has missing channels now because they 
>> won’t pay the extra 8 cents per sub.
>> 
>> The other problem is their business practices.  They fire lots of US workers 
>> and farm the work out over seas, they have also fired disabled people 
>> instead of make accommodation.  Not a dish fan here.  I used to be, they had 
>> a good product years ago but that CEO got to big for his britches and the 
>> dim view he has of the disabled also became apparent.
>> 
>> Sounds like that’s carrying over to Sling media.
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 9:23 PM, Brent Harding <br...@hostany.net 
>>> <mailto:br...@hostany.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The one thing they did that might be considered good is the whole concept 
>>> of services like Sling TV to at least be able to dump the cable and have a 
>>> decent selection of channels at a good price, but every time I hear about 
>>> one of those retransmission disputes they get into with this or that local 
>>> TV company makes me think about how bad it is for those customers affected 
>>> by it. I don't think any provider is immune from being pulled over these on 
>>> occasion, but Dish is the one that seems to make the news with them.
>>>  
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: Scott Granados <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:14 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: T-Mobile launches LTE 4X4 MIMO and 64/256 quadrature 
>>>> modulation beating verizon again!
>>>> 
>>>> Not happy at all with Dish network and haven’t been for years.  My problem 
>>>> starts with the CEO and works on down from there.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  I agree with you about the possible dish network merger. I don't see any 
>>>>> upside there at all.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net 
>>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You’re forgetting one key thing though, T-Mobile floats a lot of stock 
>>>>>> out there and issued blocks recently to raise money for expansion and 
>>>>>> spectrum.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> VZ has a tremendous amount of cash flow but a tremendous amount of debt. 
>>>>>>  Remember they had to buy their way out of Votophone.  You’re right 
>>>>>> though, it does help.  You should have seen our lab called building 51 
>>>>>> (E.T. should like that reference).  We had a whole replication of the VZ 
>>>>>> network in miniature in our building.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m not sure if the regulators will allow it but it would be        nice 
>>>>>> for T-Mo to buy Sprint and fix that network or at least put that 
>>>>>> spectrum to better use.  Unfortunately the dish network burger would 
>>>>>> probably be more easy to make happen, I hope it does not.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Oh I am sure. They have been talking about 5G testing now for sometime 
>>>>>>> I think. It seems like that's the one thing Vesey has over everybody. 
>>>>>>> They still have the most customers by far, which should mean they have 
>>>>>>> more money than anybody to spend on these kinds of improvements. 
>>>>>>> T-Mobile has been doing well. But they are still number three in the 
>>>>>>> big race, and you would think that would impact of their income over 
>>>>>>> all and thus and their ability to do stuff in the future
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net 
>>>>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I like to see the competition, I think it’s a cool thing.  There are 
>>>>>>>> very sharp people at VZ including my friend who is the lead engineer 
>>>>>>>> in the NNO group, they will continue in the arms race I’m sure.:)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:37 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well, you got paid for it. So if it's smoked, it's smoked.
>>>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Looks like they are continuing to build out which is a good sign and 
>>>>>>>>>> I know they are closing on more spectrum for more areas. Enjoy the 
>>>>>>>>>> read it’s from their CTO and has a fair bit of technical detail 
>>>>>>>>>> which is nice.  My handiwork at Verizon just got smoked.:)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:30 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for including the link, Scott. I haven't seen that yet in my 
>>>>>>>>>>> aggregation of tech news. I'm glad to see it's coming to the whole 
>>>>>>>>>>> networ. Maybe that means even we out here in Oregon will get it. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Smile. Really need that wider coverage out here in the wild wild 
>>>>>>>>>>> West.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 9:23 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> For folks who are aware, Verizon just launched LTE advanced or the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to bond carriers.  T-Mobile has had carrier aggregation in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the network since 2014 and with new advances announced this week 
>>>>>>>>>>>> jumps back in to the lead being over 2 times faster than verizon 
>>>>>>>>>>>> with maximum speeds of 400 megabits now available.  Two key 
>>>>>>>>>>>> technologies have been released, 4X4 MIMO and new modulation 
>>>>>>>>>>>> schema 64/quad upload and 256/quad download.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> First, 4X4 MIMO allows t-mobile to open twice as many paths to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> your handset.  This means that data is now spread on multiple 
>>>>>>>>>>>> paths per band effectively increasing the bandwidth ( radio 
>>>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth) between your handset and the tower.  This technology is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> up and running now in over 251 cities and quickly being rolled out 
>>>>>>>>>>>> network wide.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Second, the new modulation scheme means that more bits per frame 
>>>>>>>>>>>> or transmission are sent at one time.  This upgrade will be fully 
>>>>>>>>>>>> rolled out across the T-Mobile network by the end of october.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Combined these technologies allow for more cells per tower, faster 
>>>>>>>>>>>> throughput and the ability to offer truly unlimited services with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> out worrying about user contention or the need to throttle.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> T-Mobile also announced that it’s network now covers 99.7% of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> area that Verizon covers and reaches over 312 million users.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Plans continue to not only increase coverage but increase cell 
>>>>>>>>>>>> density to the highest in the industry surpassing verizon.  This 
>>>>>>>>>>>> means more raw capacity and more towers to carry your traffic.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Read more here
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/lte-advanced.htm 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/lte-advanced.htm>
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