Hi Martin, The release of Sierra has not rendered your Mini obsolete, thus also has not forced you to throw away a perfectly good machine, nor does it force your hand into purchasing a new computer. That Mini works very well with El Capitan and will likely continue working well for quite a while. You mentioned that you have 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB HD in your Mini, which is fine, but even if you have 16 GB RAM and a 1 TB SSD, there are many other factors that come into play including the processor, Cache speed, memory speed, video memory, the number of processors etc, which all together determine whether a system can work on any given machine. In the past, I have forced a new MacOS onto an older machine and the results were obvious. Yes, it worked, but it was brutal to operate. So very slow, especially with VO and speech. Almost painful. I totally disagree with your suggestion of purchasing the lowest end Mac as opposed to beefing it up a little. As the feature set grows, your system is taxed further, thus having a few components that are beyond minimum will allow your experience to be richer, longer.
Just my thoughts. Have a good one. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 28, 2016, at 08:26, Martin Brown <mbrown.bro...@gmail.com> wrote: Yes Anne, I can live quite well with El Capitan. I think the only thing in Sierra that would have been useful was the removal of the focus bug along with a few others. Not a show stopper however. The thing that annoys me is, that Apple have decided to not even give me the opportunity to try the new operating system for myself. Yes, it might well have been slower than on the latest and greatest. And, yes I might have had to go back to El Capitan because of that. Nevertheless, I do not like the decision taken out of my own hands by others. As I have said, El Capitan is fine. I am now old enough to have convinced my ego that contentment is not to be found in the latest offering from the boys in Silicone Valley. It was my intention to purchase something more portable, such as the Mac Book Air, in the early part of 2017. However, I shall instead go down the Ultra Book road running Windows 10. I can buy the said machine with a good speck of 16GB of RAM and a 256GB SSD drive for a lot less than anything on offer from Apple. OK, the components may not be the best that money can buy, but do they have to be in the throw-away world of today. The advice I would offer to anyone buying a Mac is quite simply this, purchase the lowest, and thus the cheapest, speck that you can get away with for your needs. Don't even consider extra RAM or more hard disc space in the hope of prolonging the lifetime of your investment. I understand, but do not agree with, the market forces that guide a lot of decisions being made by manufacturers which are not in the best interest of consumers. Having been given the operating system free of charge might not be such a good idea after all. But, then I never thought it was because in such offerings there is always a hidden cost. Take care Anne. >From grumpy Marty -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.