Hi Chris,

I think we’ll find that they have moved or mapped previous function key 
operations to other key presses.

Like what they have done for the vo enabling  so rather than command f5  now to 
command triple click power,
The function keys will probably be mapped to other things.

But it will be a learning curve to get the old ways out of our mind.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2016 5:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over 
and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

No worries Ray. I didn't even see it, as he's also on my block list.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Foret jr<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over 
and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

Now now now.  I ask you, ET.  Was that really necessary.  Yes, maybe Chris 
should have known from descriptions of the new Mac book pro about the touch ID 
area:  but, for you to stoop to such a low level like that is, quite frankly, 
beneeth the standards of proper behavior and mtual respect we all have for each 
other here.

We’re all here to help each other;  not to reduce ourselves to low-life scum 
bags by behaving toward each other in the way your message does.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!

On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:31 PM, E.T. 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

  Read the quoted text. Its all there. (shakes head)

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

On 10/28/2016 9:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

What do you mean by the touch ID. Sorry, I have Scott's messages
blocked, so I am only seeing 3/4 rather than all of this thread, so
forgive me.
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   ----- Original Message -----
   *From:* Ray Foret jr <mailto:[email protected]>
   *To:* [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
   <mailto:[email protected]>
   *Sent:* Saturday, October 29, 2016 12:00 AM
   *Subject:* Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd:
   Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

   I believe it was I who guessed at the touch ID tripple press.  From
   the look of their answer to you, Scot, seems like what they actually
   went for was pressing the command key plus the tripple press of
   touch ID.  IN other words, you press and hold down the command key
   and while doing so, you tripple press the touch ID.
   Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
   blind built-in

   Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

   Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon
   Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!


   On Oct 28, 2016, at 2:46 PM, Scott Granados
   <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%20%3cmailto:[email protected]>>>
 wrote:

   And who had the touch ID triple press, you’re the winner.  See the
   comments from Apple accessibility sent to me just 2 minutes ago.

   This sounds better and better and I have to compliment Apple in
   such a quick turn around on this question.



   Begin forwarded message:

   *From: *Apple Accessibility <[email protected]
   <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%0b   
%3cmailto:[email protected]>>>
   *Subject: **Re: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up:
   651323126*
   *Date: *October 28, 2016 at 3:42:30 PM EDT
   *To: *[email protected]<mailto:*[email protected]> 
<mailto:[email protected]>

   Hello,

   Thank you for your email. Touch Bar works with VoiceOver, Zoom
   and Switch Control. For VoiceOver users, Touch Bar uses VoiceOver
   gestures users already know and love from iOS to navigate and
   control the information on display in the Touch Bar. To turn
   VoiceOver on or off, hold the Command key and triple-press the
   Touch ID button.

   Apple Accessibility

   For more information on Accessibility at Apple, please visit:
   http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
   https://support.apple.com/accessibility

   On October 28, 2016 at 03:55:04 AM GMT, 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
   wrote:


   Hi, now that Apple is using the light bar how does a blind user activate 
voice over independently with out an F5 key.  Is there a replacement for 
command F5?

   Thanks
   Scott


   P.S.  Thank you all for your hard work.  I use Macs every day in my 
professional life and your accessibility tools make that possible.  As a 
network engineer you help this blind professional every day and I do thank you.



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