Ray, that is very insightful; I think that in a lot of ways the way cell
provider's tell people things construes things to the point where people
get mixed up in thinking things the right reasonible way that they
really should be thinking them.
On 11/2/2016 11:37 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote:
Seems to me you might try it this way.
If you have cellular service turned off for any apps, those apps WILL,
NOT, be able to use data if you go outside of Wifi range. IF you turn
cellular off all together, and have only Wifi calling inabled, you
WILL, NOT, be able to make or receive calls unless you are in range of
your WIFI network. Can’t see what’s so hard to understand about that
myself. Seems very basic to me.
Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
blind built-in
Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon
Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
On Nov 2, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Guys,
I don't know how to better explain this, and honestly, I'm getting a
bit agrevated trying to do so. Maybe one of you can chime in and help
me out.
I have a friend who is on this list. I'm not going to reveal which
member it is, as I don't wish to put anyone here on the spot. I'm not
even going to reveal their gender.
Anyway, he/she has just recently obtained an iPhone. They are
incredibly new to the iPhone world. In fact, they are new to the
smart phone world in general.
When they go into settings, Cellular, they see things using data like
Apple Music, YOutube, etc. I tried to explain to them that yes, those
things are turned on, as they are set to where cellular data is
allowed to be used with the apps.
I told them that if they either turn off any of those apps, or for
that mind, do what they wanna do by totally turning cellular off
completely, that's not a very wise idea in most cases. I tried
explaining that when cellular is off, then nothing will work if
they're on the Verizon cellular 4G/LTE network. The only time they'd
have data internet connectivity would be if they were on a wifi
network. Obviously, they don't believe me, or don't understand, one
of the two.
I don't know how to explain this any easier. I told them that all
they're doing by disabling those apps under there like Apple Music,
etc. is, they're not disabling the apps from currently! using data.
All they're doing is disabling the apps so they never! will use cellular.
The example I gave them was, if they turn off Apple Music, then any
time they move out of range of their wifi, they won't be able to use
Apple Music, as they've disabled it from being able to be used with
Cellular.
I told them, if they turn off cellular entirely, then they won't be
able to receive phone calls nor make calls, etc. unless they are on a
wifi network, as they do have wifi calling enabled.
Of corse, if they're on wifi, then their internet would also work
regardless, but as soon as they move away from the wifi range, their
internet would go kaput and so would their incoming and outgoing calls.
I tried explaining that by it saying those apps use cellular data,
that doesn't mean they're necessarily using their 6 gigs of data
right then and there. The only time that happens is if they're not on
a wifi network, at which point, it falls back to their LTE cellular
data. As long as they are on a wifi network, it would not use their
6GB data plan.
Again, I'm not gonna reveal who it is, but they are on this list, and
they definitely do check their mail from this list on a regular
basis, so if you respond, I know they'll see it, beyond a doubt.
Perhaps one of you all who're a little more patient today can explain
this.
They told me that they called Verizon, and Verizon is telling them to
always leave cellular completely turned off regardless if they are on
wifi or not. I find that extremely perplexing, as why the hell would
you want your cellular to always be off. O, Kayyy. I know places
where yes, you may want it off, but not 100% of the time. Come on!
Really?
I don't doubt what they're telling me Verizon said to them, and
honestly, it doesn't exactly surprise me that a rep would a told them
this, but I will leavbe my personal opinions out, and spare you all.
Anyway, how else do I explain how that cellualr screen works, and
what it does?
Also, they're wonderring in that screen at the veryh bottom what wifi
assist is.
I wish they'd leave that stuff back their alone, as I know what's
probably gonna happen. They're gonna start turning stuff on/off then
will dm me on Twitter and be like, Chris, why is X, y, and Z not
working? Then, I'm gonna be lost, as I don't know what they shut on
and off.
I keep telling them, if it isn't broken, don't try fixing it, but,
they wanna obviously be adventurous, which is fine, to a point, but
why ask me what something does, if you're only then gonna turn around
and say, well, not according to what x person/persons tell/tells me.
I mean, Gawod! Why're you asking me my opinion if you're then gonna
say, not true from what I hear. They tell me they believe me, but, if
they do, then why do they contradict every blessid thing I say? I
don't clame to know everything, no, and I have no issues with getting
2nd opinions, but that's really rude when asked for help, I provide,
then you turn around in my face and say well, that's not true
according to whoever intity. If you think what I'm saying isn't gonna
be true, then why're you asking me to start with!
OK, rant over.
Does anyone know how better to explain this screen, and maybe why
ideally, you'd want to leave cellular on? Does anyone know further
how to convince this person that as long as they're on a wifi
network, that they're not eating up their 6GB data? I'm! obviously
not gonna convince them, and frankly, I'm tired of trying to do so,
with all due respect to them. Smile.
Chris.
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