Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?

Christopher-Mark Gilland Thu, 03 Nov 2016 14:54:05 -0700

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----- Original Message -----From: "Simon Fogarty" <si...@blinky-net.com>

To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 4:48 AM
Subject: RE: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?

Hi Mark,

Could you clarify for me please?

What holiday season is it you are referring to?

Does America have big holidays coming up for some reason?

Cheers,

Simon F

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor

Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2016 7:52 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?
Importance: High

Hello All,

It's been a while since last I posted as a moderator. This is because asresponsible men and women, I trust that everyone in this community willconduct themselves in a gracious and kind manner.

Having said this, in light of the post, upon which I am commenting, I saythe following:

Scott, (and everyone, for that matter), name calling is unacceptable andinexcusable in this community and it simply will not be tolerated.

In my world, this sentiment is clear but just in case you live in adifferent world, this means that should anyone persists with this kind ofbehavior, they will be banned from the list.

I will post this in a completely separate thread, also, just so everyonewill see it.


To end on a positive note, I wish you all the best holiday season, ever.

Sincerely,

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados

Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 9:41 AM
To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via
Subject: Re: Wifi VS. Cellular?

It’s to bad you’re both wrong and Chris asked the question because this isright in my area but since he blocks me and since he’s such an ass toeverybody I guess the wrong information will have to be out there.

Anyone who wishes the correct answer including you Ray please contact me offlist. Aside from Chris of course.



On Nov 2, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:

Seems to me you might try it this way.

If you have cellular service turned off for any apps, those apps WILL, NOT,be able to use data if you go outside of Wifi range. IF you turn cellularoff all together, and have only Wifi calling inabled, you WILL, NOT, be ableto make or receive calls unless you are in range of your WIFI network. Can’tsee what’s so hard to understand about that myself. Seems very basic to me.

Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blindbuilt-in


Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon WirelessiPhone7+ and Apple TV user!

On Nov 2, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


Guys,

I don't know how to better explain this, and honestly, I'm getting a bitagrevated trying to do so. Maybe one of you can chime in and help me out.

I have a friend who is on this list. I'm not going to reveal which member itis, as I don't wish to put anyone here on the spot. I'm not even going toreveal their gender.

Anyway, he/she has just recently obtained an iPhone. They are incredibly newto the iPhone world. In fact, they are new to the smart phone world ingeneral.

When they go into settings, Cellular, they see things using data like AppleMusic, YOutube, etc. I tried to explain to them that yes, those things areturned on, as they are set to where cellular data is allowed to be used withthe apps.

I told them that if they either turn off any of those apps, or for thatmind, do what they wanna do by totally turning cellular off completely,that's not a very wise idea in most cases. I tried explaining that whencellular is off, then nothing will work if they're on the Verizon cellular4G/LTE network. The only time they'd have data internet connectivity wouldbe if they were on a wifi network. Obviously, they don't believe me, ordon't understand, one of the two.

I don't know how to explain this any easier. I told them that all they'redoing by disabling those apps under there like Apple Music, etc. is, they'renot disabling the apps from currently! using data. All they're doing isdisabling the apps so they never! will use cellular.

The example I gave them was, if they turn off Apple Music, then any timethey move out of range of their wifi, they won't be able to use Apple Music,as they've disabled it from being able to be used with Cellular.

I told them, if they turn off cellular entirely, then they won't be able toreceive phone calls nor make calls, etc. unless they are on a wifi network,as they do have wifi calling enabled.

Of corse, if they're on wifi, then their internet would also workregardless, but as soon as they move away from the wifi range, theirinternet would go kaput and so would their incoming and outgoing calls.

I tried explaining that by it saying those apps use cellular data, thatdoesn't mean they're necessarily using their 6 gigs of data right then andthere. The only time that happens is if they're not on a wifi network, atwhich point, it falls back to their LTE cellular data. As long as they areon a wifi network, it would not use their 6GB data plan.

Again, I'm not gonna reveal who it is, but they are on this list, and theydefinitely do check their mail from this list on a regular basis, so if yourespond, I know they'll see it, beyond a doubt.


Perhaps one of you all who're a little more patient today can explain this.

They told me that they called Verizon, and Verizon is telling them to alwaysleave cellular completely turned off regardless if they are on wifi or not.I find that extremely perplexing, as why the hell would you want yourcellular to always be off. O, Kayyy. I know places where yes, you may wantit off, but not 100% of the time. Come on! Really?

I don't doubt what they're telling me Verizon said to them, and honestly, itdoesn't exactly surprise me that a rep would a told them this, but I willleavbe my personal opinions out, and spare you all.

Anyway, how else do I explain how that cellualr screen works, and what itdoes?

Also, they're wonderring in that screen at the veryh bottom what wifi assistis.

I wish they'd leave that stuff back their alone, as I know what's probablygonna happen. They're gonna start turning stuff on/off then will dm me onTwitter and be like, Chris, why is X, y, and Z not working? Then, I'm gonnabe lost, as I don't know what they shut on and off.

I keep telling them, if it isn't broken, don't try fixing it, but, theywanna obviously be adventurous, which is fine, to a point, but why ask mewhat something does, if you're only then gonna turn around and say, well,not according to what x person/persons tell/tells me.

I mean, Gawod! Why're you asking me my opinion if you're then gonna say, nottrue from what I hear. They tell me they believe me, but, if they do, thenwhy do they contradict every blessid thing I say? I don't clame to knoweverything, no, and I have no issues with getting 2nd opinions, but that'sreally rude when asked for help, I provide, then you turn around in my faceand say well, that's not true according to whoever intity. If you think whatI'm saying isn't gonna be true, then why're you asking me to start with!


OK, rant over.

Does anyone know how better to explain this screen, and maybe why ideally,you'd want to leave cellular on? Does anyone know further how to convincethis person that as long as they're on a wifi network, that they're noteating up their 6GB data? I'm! obviously not gonna convince them, andfrankly, I'm tired of trying to do so, with all due respect to them. Smile.


Chris.

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