Hi, the higher altitude, the less fuel is burned, cause of lag of oxygen. It is as a matter of fact why you have mixture control on the most piston ACS. Forget to set it , see what happens :) dirty spark plugs, might be “interesting in a skylane with 12 plugs, not so fun in a Prat and whitney with 48 :) Scot, if i am not mistaken, the TTS package the Citation has is not tts as such, but prerecorded wav files, that is being played, if certain variables is set right, terrain warnings, and such. In our 182t today we set the gps, more or less and that is that.
On 12/20/16, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Janina, yes, my pretty lil head is amazing, in a lot of ways. :) > I were there, if mind serves correctly, i used knoppix at that time , > i might have had, cause my GF. rm-med my whole book collection. > Im usually a softly spoken gal, but i do remember that incident had me > telling her short words, not even the navy sailors use all that often. > Hans had the right idea, ever one into linux have always known that , > problem was at that time, the lack of documentation, and willingness > to try something new from the danish institute. I Demonstrated a mac > for them a few years later with leopard, and. Well today, they use it > as much as windows, should they have sticked to linux? If you ask me > yes, especially if you say that you can get eloquence up and run on > it. I will definitely look into this later on, a victor stream reader > , or something Android running that TTS. now that would be beyond > amazin’. > Now you ask why, perhaps, Linux is free, and with 3th world countrys > with blind people, i am sure you have given this more thought than i > have. > Keyboard, is what led me to key tars, they are amazing in them selves, > I am more a country girl, so yay. different strokes for different > folks :) I am totally crazy for the Sound of a drednaut, and will > admit that everyday. > I love flying our Skylane with my sister, she does, not however love > it as much as me, it has to do with, creation of involuntarily bodily > fluids. > I always tell her to be a big girl and suck it up, not literally, she > take great revenge comes time for injections. > I have to be honest i have no idea what Hans does these days. that man > could do things with a UniX machine that would leave me Gasping for, > breath. > And, it is hard to impress me. > Back to flying, I am trying to land a job where they use Flight sims , > it is fun, and it even pays my food, and other toys. > Which admittedly are many, and expensive. > Suddenly, i am wondering, doesn’t the victor reader run some sort of > android? food for thought. > > > On 12/20/16, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> Hi, Sandi: >> >> Yes, that was me in Copenhagen. That was many years ago, I think perhaps >> 2003 or 2004? Your memory is impressive! <grin> >> >> I was Hans Rasmussen's guest at the Danish Institute. He arranged a >> session on Linux for interested folks on more than one occasion, as I >> recall. iI know I was in Copenhagen, staying at the Institute, at least >> 3 or 4 times. I guess you were there for one of those sessions? Small >> world! <grin> >> >> You ask what I play. The answer is keyboards these days. My training, >> and my college degree, was in music. I trained to be a concert >> pianist--Beethoven, Mozart, and all those guys. Nowadays my music is >> focussed around being a church musician. I'm Music Director for a small >> church in College Park, Maryland, near where I live. >> >> The time of my turn at the controls of a Cesna must have in in 1969 or >> 1970. Our Music Department Chairman sat me down and read me a letter >> from a camps some 200 plus miles away from where we were. They were >> looking for someone to perform a concert for them. They were only paying >> transportation, and I was trying to figure out how to say "No" to my >> department Chairman until he looked up at me and said: "Let's fly." >> >> I knew he was a pilot. I immediately said "Yes." I think they were >> surprised by the transportation bill, but they paid it. I still had >> residual vision in those days, so I was able to monitor the >> instrumentation fairly well. I had a blast. I got a memory I still >> cherish. >> >> PS: I haven't spoken with Hans in years--since he retired. I should try >> and contact him and Mitsie to say hi. >> >> Janina >> >> Sandi Jazmin Kruse writes: >>> Janina, If i am not mistaken, and i could be, a girl with the same >>> name as you was in denmark. some years back, talking and demonstrating >>> linux. >>> So, well, when i came home i was like, , “ i gotta be her” having >>> dreams is perfectly okay, but why do we have to stop after the dreams >>> over, that is when you realize what can be worked out into Rl, and >>> what can’t. >>> my Sister just corrected me , family Cessna is a 182-t. We have a >>> flying club a couple miles away from where i live, so now the guys are >>> wild up for recking a computer up to the MFDS. I will of course still >>> need a sighted pilot, but i promise y’all this, that will be the >>> smallest of my problems. >>> Janina, you talking about playing, since we already sidetracking, er i >>> meant , sideslipping, what do you play? got a couple of different >>> Keytars here , the Vortex, the Linstrument, and a Seaboard. >>> I knew hitting the local apple store was a bad idea, iPad and a >>> keyboard, >>> >>> >>> On 12/20/16, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> > You've got me jealous again, Scott! <grin> I never got beyond the >>> > controls of a Cesna 180. Though I suppose I can take some solace that >>> > it >>> > cost me only a couple hours work playing a concert in a small >>> > Minnesota >>> > town. >>> > >>> > This was years ago when I was still in college. >>> > >>> > I'm going to have to try and follow in Sandi's footsteps, I think. >>> > Fantasy is important, after all! >>> > >>> > Janina >>> > >>> > Scott Granados writes: >>> >> And here I used real aircraft instead of simulators. I had no idea >>> >> there >>> >> were accessible simulators other than the full sized 747 simulator I >>> >> spent >>> >> some time in in the Boston area. >>> >> >>> >> I have flown (with a sited pilot of course) a Citation X, and older >>> >> Gulf-stream and a bunch of small Cessna planes like the 172. And >>> >> here >>> >> I >>> >> could have saved $3000 per hour in fuel not to mention the 6 figures >>> >> for >>> >> the flight sharing plan with a simulator.:) >>> >> >>> >> > On Dec 19, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse >>> >> > <sandi1...@gmail.com> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > Hi Joshua >>> >> > I have used flightier on mac , for about 10 year, before i got a >>> >> > job >>> >> > that required me to change to FSX, i have tried its your plane, it >>> >> > is >>> >> > fairly cute, if you unlike me , like to sit and talk to your plane, >>> >> > in >>> >> > my world it have nothing to do with flying, imagine this, you fly >>> >> > in >>> >> > your j3, you can hear every little beat from the engine. and what >>> >> > is >>> >> > even better, you control every little thing you have to do , yes it >>> >> > is >>> >> > hard, but if it was easy, everyone would do it, right? >>> >> > Janina, damn you, now you have me once again, wanting, needing an >>> >> > android thing, so i can try it out. Whimper, new mac book pro, new >>> >> > key >>> >> > tar, new iPad, and now also a new android thing , is it really >>> >> > that >>> >> > amazing that a girl lives in a geek world 24.7? not if y’all ask >>> >> > me. >>> >> > Bookshare with Espeak? i dare you reading Calendar girl with that >>> >> > one, >>> >> > xd hides in dark long hair. >>> >> > I only have the danish version, so i can’t do that, at least that, >>> >> > is >>> >> > going to be my story anyways. >>> >> > Best Sandi. >>> >> > >>> >> > On 12/19/16, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries >>> >> > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >> >> Yes, your correction is accepted, Scott. I'm aware of NAT, and in >>> >> >> fact >>> >> >> have unroutable addresses asigned for my Fusion machines which I >>> >> >> use >>> >> >> internally when communicating only on the Airbook itself. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> However, I particularly dislike NAT, and don't care to go back >>> >> >> into >>> >> >> it. >>> >> >> Locally, I'm now fully IPv6, and plan to keep it that way. And, >>> >> >> yes, >>> >> >> I >>> >> >> do need my Fusion vm routable from the outside frequently enough. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Setting up NAT just to avoid the extra address is, admittedly, a >>> >> >> way >>> >> >> around my predicament. But, I'd frankly rather not. The truth is >>> >> >> that >>> >> >> there are wifi interruptions enough, where communication hangs. To >>> >> >> add >>> >> >> yet another layer to that isn't anything I want to fuss with. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On my Lisbon trip I stayed with tethering via my T-Mobile phone >>> >> >> for >>> >> >> just >>> >> >> that reason. And, indeed, there were wifi outages during the day >>> >> >> that >>> >> >> others were frustrated by. I just smiled and kept going. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> What I saw in Sapporo in 2015, where NTT set a mesh with a WAP >>> >> >> about >>> >> >> every 30-40 feet or so, with native IPv6 was another matter. There >>> >> >> was >>> >> >> a >>> >> >> deployment I used all week without issues--but that's the >>> >> >> exception >>> >> >> in >>> >> >> my experience. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Janina >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Scott Granados writes: >>> >> >>> Hi Janina, not arguing your points at all but I wanted to make >>> >> >>> one >>> >> >>> correction. You most certainly can consolidate your IP usage. >>> >> >>> If >>> >> >>> you >>> >> >>> spin up a VM and change the network adapter from bridged to NAT >>> >> >>> you >>> >> >>> can >>> >> >>> have the Mac receive one IP only and then have it provide an >>> >> >>> internal >>> >> >>> network for your other virtual machines thus removing the need >>> >> >>> for >>> >> >>> several >>> >> >>> IP addresses. I’m aware of the problems with NAT, as I’m sure >>> >> >>> you >>> >> >>> are >>> >> >>> in >>> >> >>> great detail as well but I have found this to be a viable >>> >> >>> solution >>> >> >>> especially when on WiFi networks that require advanced >>> >> >>> authentication >>> >> >>> or >>> >> >>> wired networks with 802.1x enabled. Another advantage is if you >>> >> >>> have >>> >> >>> a >>> >> >>> VPN running on the Mac side you can have access to all the >>> >> >>> various >>> >> >>> connected resources on the virtual network with out having to >>> >> >>> establish an >>> >> >>> independent VPN session per VM thus removing the limitations of >>> >> >>> VPN >>> >> >>> environments with login limits and other network access control >>> >> >>> limitations. As a mother related note, you can also create >>> >> >>> internal >>> >> >>> networks with no access at all. These are good for building >>> >> >>> virtual >>> >> >>> network topologies. I have 12 different virtual routers that I >>> >> >>> spin >>> >> >>> up >>> >> >>> that each simulate a Juniper MX router. I bind these with shared >>> >> >>> networks >>> >> >>> between their adapters which then represent them selves as point >>> >> >>> to >>> >> >>> point >>> >> >>> ethernet links with in the routers themselves. So, for example, >>> >> >>> I >>> >> >>> can >>> >> >>> bind ge-0/0/0 on router 1 to ge-0/0/0 on router 2 using a shared >>> >> >>> /31 >>> >> >>> address just like you would with real cables and routers. I can >>> >> >>> then >>> >> >>> enable my protocols, set up my peering, enable MPLS, build VRFs >>> >> >>> and >>> >> >>> all >>> >> >>> the associated things you would in real hardware but with out the >>> >> >>> expense >>> >> >>> of building a home lab and buying all the real gear. Also, this >>> >> >>> allows me >>> >> >>> to easily carry from place to place simulated networks to >>> >> >>> demonstrate >>> >> >>> features to customers or team members. It’s also a great place >>> >> >>> to >>> >> >>> test >>> >> >>> configuration changes. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> John mentioned that the disk layout is quite good and consistent >>> >> >>> on >>> >> >>> the >>> >> >>> Mac and also the startup disk location can be set before reboot >>> >> >>> so >>> >> >>> that >>> >> >>> would ease the concerns I raised. I guess I’m just a VM man >>> >> >>> because >>> >> >>> I >>> >> >>> like the access to everything at once and don’t mind working with >>> >> >>> in >>> >> >>> a >>> >> >>> hypervisor. Different work flows for different folks, that’s how >>> >> >>> the >>> >> >>> song >>> >> >>> goes right? :). You make very good points. I would think what >>> >> >>> you >>> >> >>> want to >>> >> >>> do could be easily done and you could just select the disk you >>> >> >>> want >>> >> >>> before >>> >> >>> you shut down or on the way up using a pre memorized set of keys. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 9:19 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries >>> >> >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> Hi, Scott: >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> I always appreciate your viewpoint, so am responding at a little >>> >> >>>> length. >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> I find Fusion quite acceptable for the use case where I want >>> >> >>>> access >>> >> >>>> to >>> >> >>>> all the OS installed on my system. One example of when this >>> >> >>>> happens >>> >> >>>> is >>> >> >>>> when I want to view a web page via multiple browsers. There are >>> >> >>>> other >>> >> >>>> examples, but the point now is that there's a counter example. >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> The counter example is when I'm at a conference, participating >>> >> >>>> in >>> >> >>>> the >>> >> >>>> give and take of a meeting around a coference table--something I >>> >> >>>> do >>> >> >>>> a >>> >> >>>> fair bit of. In this case I can only give partial attention to >>> >> >>>> the >>> >> >>>> laptop, though I do need to track minute taking via IRC, and >>> >> >>>> such. >>> >> >>>> In >>> >> >>>> this situation I need no muss no fuss access to rock solid >>> >> >>>> connectivity. >>> >> >>>> For me this means the command line tools, and that means Linux. >>> >> >>>> No >>> >> >>>> one >>> >> >>>> else comes close on the cli, though I haven't tried the new >>> >> >>>> Windows >>> >> >>>> 10 >>> >> >>>> Ubuntu import yet. >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> There's an additional reason why the counter example should be a >>> >> >>>> single >>> >> >>>> OS boot, namely that I don't want to hog multiple IP addresses. >>> >> >>>> If >>> >> >>>> I >>> >> >>>> use >>> >> >>>> Fusion, I find I get one IP assigned to the Mac OS, and a second >>> >> >>>> IP >>> >> >>>> assigned to the Fusion VM. There's no way around this as the Mac >>> >> >>>> is >>> >> >>>> essentially hosting the device and bridging the Fusion VM. This >>> >> >>>> introduces latency and also makes me a less than good citizen on >>> >> >>>> the >>> >> >>>> wifi mesh. >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> So, my analysis says either I find a way to triple boot my >>> >> >>>> Airbook, >>> >> >>>> or >>> >> >>>> I >>> >> >>>> don't travel with it. And, in my mind, the only point of a >>> >> >>>> laptop >>> >> >>>> is >>> >> >>>> to >>> >> >>>> be able to travel. So, either I figure out a triple boot that >>> >> >>>> works; >>> >> >>>> or >>> >> >>>> I dual boot OSX and Linux, leaving Windows to a Fusion VM--which >>> >> >>>> is >>> >> >>>> a >>> >> >>>> possibility; or I sell the Airbook for what I can get and get >>> >> >>>> something >>> >> >>>> else to use on the road. >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> In point of fact I have not traveled with my Airbook on my last >>> >> >>>> business >>> >> >>>> trips. Instead, I took along an almost 9 year old Thinkpad >>> >> >>>> running >>> >> >>>> Arch >>> >> >>>> linux with both Speakup and Orca. Actually, it was quite >>> >> >>>> adequate >>> >> >>>> for >>> >> >>>> my >>> >> >>>> purposes. >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> So, it's decision time because these two end of year weeks are >>> >> >>>> kind >>> >> >>>> of >>> >> >>>> free time for me. It's a good time to do installations and >>> >> >>>> configurations of stuff for the coming year. >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> Janina >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> Scott Granados writes: >>> >> >>>>> Hi there, personally I would advise against this and I’m most >>> >> >>>>> willing >>> >> >>>>> to hear opposing viewpoints on this but here’s my take. Using >>> >> >>>>> vision >>> >> >>>>> you have a totally accessible path to each OS. Using bootcamp >>> >> >>>>> the >>> >> >>>>> selection of the OS you wish to boot is not accessible to my >>> >> >>>>> understanding of things. If you’re in a hurry this could be an >>> >> >>>>> issue. >>> >> >>>>> I’m sure like anything it’s just a matter of memorizing key >>> >> >>>>> presses >>> >> >>>>> but >>> >> >>>>> for me fusion does so well I wouldn’t bother with the potential >>> >> >>>>> headaches. >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> Just my $.02 realize that doesn’t answer your larger question >>> >> >>>>> of >>> >> >>>>> how >>> >> >>>>> to. >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> On Dec 17, 2016, at 7:27 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries >>> >> >>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> Hi, All: >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> I'm mulling a rebuild of the various OS on my 2013 vintage >>> >> >>>>>> Airbook. >>> >> >>>>>> I >>> >> >>>>>> have VMware, and I've used it more or less successfully. But, >>> >> >>>>>> there >>> >> >>>>>> are >>> >> >>>>>> times on the road where I don't need to switch among the >>> >> >>>>>> various >>> >> >>>>>> installed OS. These are times were direct access into one OS >>> >> >>>>>> will >>> >> >>>>>> be >>> >> >>>>>> sufficient. >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> So, it's clear that Bootcamp is there to dual boot OSX and >>> >> >>>>>> Windows. >>> >> >>>>>> But, >>> >> >>>>>> what about a third booting option? Say I want a third choice, >>> >> >>>>>> say >>> >> >>>>>> Arch >>> >> >>>>>> Linux. >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> I find a howto on the net for setting this up: >>> >> >>>>>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MacBook >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> But, before I dive in to try and get it going, I wanted to ask >>> >> >>>>>> for >>> >> >>>>>> the >>> >> >>>>>> experience and wisdom of any here who may have successfully >>> >> >>>>>> created >>> >> >>>>>> a >>> >> >>>>>> triple boot configuration. >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> Thanks in advance for any guidance. >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> Janina >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> -- >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 >>> >> >>>>>> sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net >>> >> >>>>>> Email: jan...@rednote.net >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> Linux Foundation Fellow >>> >> >>>>>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility >>> >> >>>>>> Initiative >>> >> >>>>>> (WAI) >>> >> >>>>>> Chair, Accessible Platform >>> >> >>>>>> Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> -- >>> >> >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the >>> >> >>>>>> Mac >>> >> >>>>>> Visionaries list. >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of >>> >> >>>>>> this >>> >> >>>>>> list, >>> >> >>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>> >> >>>>>> contact >>> >> >>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the >>> >> >>>>>> list >>> >> >>>>>> itself. >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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You can reach mark >>> at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara >>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> >> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 >> sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net >> Email: jan...@rednote.net >> >> Linux Foundation Fellow >> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org >> >> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >> Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >> or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> at: >> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - >> you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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