Tank is a good analogy for OR20
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 6:50 PM Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: +1, from what I under stand it’s built like a tank in comparison to most braille displays. Especially for the low cost. On Dec 18, 2016, at 4:32 PM, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote: The Orbit Reader 20 is durable, ruggid, and a fraction the cost of other 20cell Braille displays. Hope others will follow in APH's lead. I'd argue this is the only Braille display that will be able to survive third-world developing nations. On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 11:33 AM Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: Regarding the Orbit Braille display, what happens if it needs cleaning? You all know that those who use these displays, if a cell goes bad it will cost £100 to replace a cell. I don't know what that is in dollars. Will the display cost a lot more to fix if so, then it's not worth getting a braille displayif it will cost just as much to maintain. Kawal. > On 17 Dec 2016, at 03:05, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes, the Orbit Braille Display. It uses mechanical actuaters which are moved into place with a spinning wheel that moves across the line. APH is one of the organisations involved with the project. > > Kind regards, > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 17/12/2016, at 13:51, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> There’s actually a lot of work going on with lower cost braille. There’s a sub $500 braille display in the works from what I hear as well. >> >>> On Dec 16, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Maybe, but if you don't happen to have a few thousand dollars lying around or a rehab agency who can provide those dollars, it might provide an option to have access to hard copy braille. I hear what you're saying and I've seen braille produced that way. It can be strange to read. But at least it's another option. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>>> On Dec 16, 2016, at 4:07 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> A few thoughts: >>>> 90 of the blind people were able to read the braille. This means, the braille was not as normally perceived. >>>> It requires a second heat source to activate the expansion. So, it includes a heat-reactive component which swells. The swelling occurs in all directions, not just vertical. So, the braille will most likely feel like half-dome rounded dots. The printer probably sprays more ink in the center of each dot to get increased hight, but as the ink powder dries from the application of the lazer, there will be some spillage. I evaluated some 3d printed tactile maps, and the 3d printed braille which was on the vertical surfaces did not work very well because of the slight spillage. >>>> I suspect the dots will not be as tall, or as sharp, as blind people are used to. Therefore, as currently explained, my guess is the device will work better as a tactile graphics printer rather than as a braille printer. >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 17/12/2016, at 06:17, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, all. Glad people found it useful. If it actually works, it sure beats spending a few grand on a braille embosser. And as for Duxbury, they already have the capacity to print simulated braille, so I see no reason why this would impact them much. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>>> On Dec 16, 2016, at 10:39 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Well now, this is a very intriguing one. I wonder if Duxbury is aware of this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Very good one, Donna, thanks for sharing it which is certainly not OT. >>>>>> >>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>>> "Lord, Help me become the person >>>>>> my dog thinks I am." --Dawn Ewing >>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/16/2016 5:55 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A friend sent this to me, and though not specifically Mac related, I >>>>>>> thought it would be of interest to many on the list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.geek.com/tech/samsungs-touchable-ink-prints-braille-using-any-laser-printer-1673209/ >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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