My external hard drive stopped working and nothing at all was done to
it to cause it to break.  I'm getting a compact flash card or two with
a usb reader for the desktops, netbook etc. and a pcmcia
adapter/reader for the laptops and Braille Note.  I feel alot more
secure with those.  I just want to make sure that it's DOS and
Windows-compatible first.  I only use about 20gb on any given machine
and that's giving myself several gigs of extra space, so I don't need
a huge drive/card.  The other Mac is also a Macbook, so it does have
the port.  Opa!  I like this idea.  I'll try it if nothing else works.
 In the meantime, I've also heard that I can insert the first Leopard
disk and hit c or d and that might get it to work.  I'll have to see.
Assuming that I can get VoiceOver working, I know I can get some usb
sticks to use temporarily so I can retrieve my info and put it on my
XP machine.  I'll have to check my Mac bag now.  I no longer have the
original box, so hopefully, I put it in the bag.  I never even
realised it came with an extention cord.  I'm used to the cords on
laptops being a decent length so one of these isn't necessary, but
it'll certainly make my life easier.

On 23/12/2009, Esther <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Elen and Chris,
>
> Did you check whether you can hear VoiceOver through your headphones?
> One possibility is that you damaged the speaker connection and can
> still get VoiceOver if you plug in headphones. If it's simply a case
> of not hearing sound, you can try resetting the PRAM, since this
> module contains information about initial volume settings and also the
> startup disk selection.  You'll have to reboot your computer and hold
> down the Control, Option, P, and R keys simultaneously as outlined in
> this Apple Support document about resetting your Mac's PRAM:
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379
>
> Chris, I'm not sure that she has a fully working system to back up,
> since she's talking about connecting the MacBook to another Mac to get
> the files off.   Eleni, here's what I think may work:  get a firewire
> cable and plug it in between your MacBook and the other Mac. (I'm
> assuming that the Desktop Mac has a Firewire port.)  Then, power up
> your MacBook while holding down the "T" key.  This lets you boot up
> into target disk mode.  What happens is that the laptop's hard drive
> shows up as a second drive of the desktop Mac (but probably also named
> "Macintosh HD") under the devices in the sidebar of Finder.  The first
> "Macintosh HD" will be the hard drive for the desktop Mac.  The second
> one (VO-Down arrow) in the sidebar will be the drive of your MacBook.
> You should be able to access the files you want in Finder and copy
> them over to the Desktop Mac or to other hard drives or peripherals
> attached to the Desktop Mac.  I've never had to do this kind of file
> recovery -- usually I have a cloned drive of my laptop to recover
> files from -- but I just tried booting my 5+some years old Powerbook
> up in target disk mode connected to my MacBook.  Basically, you should
> be able to boot your machine in target disk mode to another machine
> under circumstances where you can't get your system to fully boot up
> by itself.  However, I would first try resetting the PRAM since it's
> possible that might fix the boot up and/or VoiceOver speaking problem.
>
> Here's the Apple support document on how to use Target Disk mode:
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1661
>
> You should have your MacBook connected to AC power if you're going to
> be using it in this mode for any extended period (e.g. for copying
> files).
>
> Finally, I'm puzzled by something you mentioned in one of your earlier
> posts (on converting movies -- something I'm not familiar with)
>
> Tiffany D wrote:
>> It's bad enough that this is a large machine and that
>> the charger cord is so short it's laughable, but when I can't do my
>> work and ordinary things, it really gets on my nerves.
> It sounds as though you're not using the extension cord that came with
> your computer.  Each Mac comes with a power adapter whose corner has a
> plug attachment whose prongs (for U.S. power plugs) can simply flip
> down and be plugged into an AC outlet.  That corner piece can also be
> unplugged and the power plug for a different country inserted.
> However, for all the U.S. Macs, there's also an extension plug that
> comes with the power adapter.  That's a heavier cable that ends in a
> three-prong plug and whose other end can be plugged into the corner of
> the power adapter when you pull off the plug attachment.  Aren't you
> using this?  I normally keep this cord plus my Mac power adapter
> unless I want to carry less, or if I don't have any outlets available
> that can accept the third prong.  The extension cord is usually packed
> in with the cables that come with the MacBook.  Assuming that you had
> the same box that I did,  this was in the rectangular bay in the foam
> at the front of the box.  You shouldn't have any problems with the
> cord length if you're using the extension cord.
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
>
> Chris Blouch wrote:
>
>> Sounds like you got a dud, which happens on all computers of all
>> brands
>> from time to time. Still doesn't make it a pleasant experience. My
>> wife's MacBook has been shipped to AppleCare twice now with a dead
>> motherboad (the first time) and a dead hard drive (the second time).
>> Since I convinced her to switch from her Dell I got to hear about
>> it. Of
>> course the Dell had already had its share of failures hardware and
>> otherwise so it wasn't a huge armtwist. She does like it when it
>> works.
>>
>> That said, as far as a backup goes, you could just plug in an external
>> hard drive and copy to it anything you care about. Time machine also
>> works well and will do an incremental backup every 60 minutes. The UI
>> isn't very accessible but if you had to reinstall things there is a
>> step
>> in the setup where you can restore from a timeMachine backup, so if
>> things really went pear shaped you could at least get your files back.
>> The time machine backup is organized so you could go to
>> DriveName/ComputerName/Latest/YourDriveName and find everything that
>> it
>> backed up from your drive, so you don't have to use their GUI at all
>> once it's turned on. I'd get an external drive roughly 2x the size of
>> the drive you want to back up. That way you'll have room for a full
>> backup and lots of incrementals.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> Eleni Vamvakari wrote:
>>>  So the Mac quit on me again, no more than two weeks after I got it
>>> back from Apple.  I was trying to use that converter program and it
>>> just sat there and did nothing, as I've said in another post.  Then,
>>> it just disappeared.  One minute it was open and the next it was
>>> gone.
>>> When I reloaded it, I couldn't get into it's menus.  I could only get
>>> into the Apple and other menus by hitting VO-m twice.  Now I was
>>> really annoyed, so I did two bad things.  First, I pounded my hand on
>>> the computer and second, I shut it off with the power button instead
>>> of going through the normal shut-down process.  As a result, the
>>> hyphin key came up a little (don't ask how, since I wasn't anywhere
>>> near it) and when I turned it back on, I got no speech.  No matter
>>> what I did, I couldn't get VoiceOver to start.
>>>
>>>  Two days ago, Mom came up to try to help me but with no success.
>>> When she turned it on, she only saw an apple going around and around
>>> and then a blank screen.  We tried the tech tool cd but when we put
>>> it
>>> in, nothing happened.  So we tried the Leopard installation disk.
>>> This time, the cd drive made a bit of a strange sound (sort of like a
>>> buzzing) but did nothing else either good or bad.  I heard the drive
>>> sound getting louder, as it usually does and then it went quiet.
>>> Yesterday, I hooked up the external keyboard but that didn't work
>>> either.  The machine turns on, makes the start-up sound and I know
>>> the
>>> hard disk is doing something, But I can't get it to talk.  If anyone
>>> can offer me a suggestion as to what I can do, I'd sincerely
>>> appreciate it.
>>>
>>>  In the meantime, we called Apple.  They said they'd give us a
>>> refirbished model, but now I have to wait for someone to bring me
>>> and/or it to the store.  I know that I misused the Mac but it still
>>> shouldn't be acting like this.  It's not like I spilled a whole cup
>>> of
>>> coffee in the keyboard and threw it out the window.  I seriously
>>> can't
>>> take this anymore.  Yes, Leopard does have some advantages over
>>> Windows.  But what is the advantage of having a $2,000 machine when
>>> it
>>> always breaks down and when a cheaper one works just as well?  My
>>> AppleCare is about to expire, and when it does, I can't keep shelling
>>> out money every time this thing decides to break down.
>>>
>>>  Anyway, I asked a friend about how I can save my files and get them
>>> off of there and he suggested I hook up my Mac and the household Mac
>>> via a fire wire connection and use Migration Assistant.  How does
>>> that
>>> work?  I can't ask Joanie, cause she barely uses it and only for very
>>> basic things, and Mom's just learning how to use a computer.  Please,
>>> can anyone help me so that I don't mess up the other machine?  Can I
>>> transfer files to a cd or usb stick with this program and is it
>>> possible for me to delete the ones off of my machine with it?  Btw,
>>> I've never used Time Machine, if that's required to use Migration
>>> Assistant.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Eleni
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