Hi Alex,

 You can't still setup the iPad or phone without needing to have the screen 
lock pin or fingerprint enable,

 Possibly a good idea until such time as they are comfortable with using the 
device,

 Yes the speed dots sound like a great way to start, guess finding the correct 
one for starting with would be the problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2017 5:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?

Thanks, everyone, for all the input. I'll look into getting a Speed Dots fitted 
over the Otterbox.

Simon, yes, the product you described is exactly what Speed Dots is. They make 
a variety of screen protectors that come with dots. Some have dots for all 
keyboard keys, some for just f and j, and so on.

As to the dial pad, I was talking about unlocking the device. If I'm not around 
and the client needs to use the iPad, Touch ID could fail and they'd be stuck. 
Also, Touch ID requires the passcode after a couple days of inactivity, and at 
this early stage, the client is likely to leave the iPad alone for long enough 
to cause such a lockout. I want them to be able to get into the iPad on their 
own, be it with Touch ID or a code.

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> On Apr 17, 2017, at 19:36, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> 
> I'm interested in why you would say don't use the dial pad or keyboard dots?
> 
> Surely using the dial pad at least would be a better way to learn than using 
> siri?
> 
> I would think siri is a more advanced option than actually knowing how 
> to dial and besides I'd be surprised if this client wasn't aware of how to 
> use a dial pad Isn't that something most people know these days?
> 
> And learning the keyboard on an IOS
> Device would be very fine finger work.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Davert
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2017 1:10 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?
> 
> Good morning, Alex.
> I have found the SpeedDots screen protectors to work, but if you introduce 
> too many applications at once, that it can be more confusing. In the case of 
> what you are describing, given the info I have, I would suggest the model 
> without the qwerty keyboard dots on it, since this person has never used a 
> computer, and therefor, probably doesn't understand where the keys are 
> anyway. I would also suggest not using the dial pad unless it is absolutely 
> necissary. Siri can dial numbers, of course, and entering touch tones may be 
> a concept for later once the client has gotten used to activating things on 
> the touch screen.
> 
> Just my thoughts,
> Scott
> 
>> On 4/17/17, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I'm working with a client who has never touched a computer and does 
>> not type at all, nor do they use braille. Therefore, we're starting 
>> on an iPad, because of the easy dictation, ability to touch the 
>> screen to explore it, and so on. One difficulty is orientation on the screen.
>> We're using the home button as a reference, but that's not as good as 
>> having markers on the screen, of course.
>> 
>> My question is about Speed Dots screen protectors. I've never used 
>> one, so I don't know if they would work. I know what they do, but 
>> with iOS, things aren't always in the same place. For instance,  the 
>> prompt to enter your passcode when TouchID isn't an option has a 
>> whole different number pad than the prompt to provide your passcode 
>> for an update, and entering a phone number on the iPad actually 
>> presents the numbers keyboard, not a phone-like layout at all. This 
>> client isn't using the keyboard, at least not yet, so having dots on 
>> the keys won't be too helpful right now, but could be in the future. 
>> And yet, some people find having reference dots helpful, so I'm not sure 
>> what to suggest.
>> 
>> For those who have used, or currently use, Speed Dots, are they 
>> really helpful? Do the dots help even if they can be placed 
>> incorrectly for the current application? Has anyone found it easier 
>> to just toss some tactile dots on a screen protector, exactly where you want 
>> them?
>> Thanks for any thoughts on this.
>> 
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