On Apr 23, 2017, at 3:54 AM, Yuma Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com> wrote:
I wanted to chime in for a few points:
Apple is dispersing itself a bit too much. What's next on the line? A Lavazza
partnership for a coffee machine? Or maybe some jogging shoes with mag safe
laces? Better yet, a Mars lander capsule with an enhanced version of voice
over? Wait, the latter is something they should aim for, shoot to mars
projects, not attempts at capturing consumer markets outside of what they do
best.
In terms of the A.I, as a daily A.I programmer, I'm not impressed at all. Why
does siri forget a name I call all the time when it worked until then? What is
the use of asking me the same thing all the time, when siri should know that I
know the command better and faster than it can respond? And what about putting
some of the phrases together, and assist in performance driven ways, which is
the one major reason why I would like an assistant as a blind user? Wait, this
bleeds into all users anyway, and google now + alexia are taking cloud based
and data centric approaches way higher. To be fair, Apple's frameworks are
increasingly better, and the sheer breadth of things you can do with their
libraries is the model they have taken, to create an eco system where the user
can become one of the earners, and participate in Apple's success, for some,
along with their own. And taking 30% off their sales.
But the fact is that Apple has lost in not using the data available to them,
and this comes to one thing Apple distinguishes itself from the other players:
The OS and hardware setup is a help, not a listener. Entertainment, not a
commodity, like the advertising model Google or FB take. And this is the crux
of their problem, which is a societal question: how much are you privvy to your
own circle, and how much is the public image and lifestyle? Do both agree that
there are worldly matters that require engineering, and thus pro connectivity
to everything? OSX connects to Linux, windows, and its programming language
swift is now ported to linux. Integration with python and other languages is
amazing, and it is c based. When you say Apple's interface is easy to use, it
is and it accelerates as you learn your key commands.
But in this era of A.I, where it faults is the assistant's capacity to really
assist, not be a gimmick with far few too many things to offer, despite how it
markets it, which I find a bit insulting at times, knowing what the world of
A.I is currently able to do, in academic circles I frequent daily.
Disgruntled but happy
On 23/04/2017, at 4:11 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
Amazon's speech recognition assistant. Works well in the US and some places in
Europe.
Kind regards,
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone
On 23/04/2017, at 10:44, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
Sorry but what is this Alexa?
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Subject: Re: And here's an example of why Apple is losing the digital assistant
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Hi Scott. While I'm a loyal Apple customer, I completely agree with you about
Siri. Siri is one of the reasons I bought my Amazon Echo Dot. Alexa is just a
better assistant than Siri is. I mean, with the Dot, Alexa gets better and
better every day with the number of skills that get added each day. With Siri,
you have to wait until Apple updates her with every iOS major release. This was
acceptible in 2011, but when Amazon and Google are beating you in the AI
department in 2017, maybe its time that Apple take notice. I'll still buy Apple
products and use Siri to make calls, text people, and find out what song I'm
listening to on the radio, but that's all she's good for.
Shawn
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P.S. Scott, that was a good article about the Google Home. It's just too bad
that I can't talk to the Google Assistant on my phone or my computer like I can
with Alexa using Reverb. I know that you can talk to her with Google Allo, but
with that app she doesn't speak her answers back to you. For that, Alexa still
wins. Also, you can talk to her in the Google Search app, but that
functionality only works for searches. I just wanna have fun with it, not
search for things.
On Apr 22, 2017, at 5:27 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
So, Apple brought us Siri and we had hi hopes but they?ve let it fall flat on
it?s face and are being schooled by Amazon and especially google. Let?s look
at the announcements recently from the 3 companies. Alexa continues to make
strides with additional integration across multiple platforms and expanded
languages and ability to parse complex sentences, Google takes things even
farther allowing their units to distinguish between users by their voices,
provides tight integration with hundreds of data sources and literally adds
features on a biweekly basis, and Apple, what?s Apple announcing. Siri now can
read your what?s app messages. (Big freaking whoop Apple). Google announces
multiple voice recognition and the addition of real neural net technology and
Apple can now read text messages from a 3rd party app. They have to do better.
The iPhone is such a good phone in every way but then you?re stuck with Siri.
You are letting us down Apple, you?re not innovating any more and you?re going
to see folks like my self for example jump off the Apple band wagon and
squarely on to the Google Pixel band wagon if you don?t get your act together.
Here?s a link to the big announcement AKA Apple?s continued stagnation.
http://www.redmondpie.com/siri-on-ios-10.3-can-now-read-out-new-whatsapp-messages-for-you/
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