Yes I am aware of that not being a cyber event. Still shows what could result from a targeted cyber attack on infrastructure.

And in line with that also is the fact that many people do nto understand the risks from not utilizing security measures. But here is the rub. If the government cannot plug the leaks in the virtual dike, it matters little what you and I do.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: [email protected]

On 5/26/2017 11:01 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
The blackout of NYC was not from a cyber attack.  I’m not sure if this is for 
general consumption but that blackout was caused by an experiment being done in 
upstate New York up near Niagra Falls with a device that focuses a beam on 
parts of the upper atmosphere to heat and effect different points.  They 
created a vacuum from the ionized layer of the atmosphere back down to the 
emitter and bam, huge flow of electricity back in to the grid.

        Remember also, all the cases you mentioned were caused by folks not 
patching and staying current with their security.  Patch and stay current and 
you’ll be much better off.



On May 26, 2017, at 11:54 AM, E.T. <[email protected]> wrote:

  Just look at new laws being written for distracted walkers. And look at the 
mania surrounding Pokemon Go. How easily people become addicted to technology. 
And they have no idea they were assimilated.

  We already see people becoming part machine. Its incredible. But there must 
be a balance. And there are risks too. Look at how easily ransomware took 
thousands of computers hostage recently. And Russia's ongoing cyber warfare 
world wide. You recall the virus attack on Iran's centrifuges that destroyed 
thousands of them? And the vulnerability of infrastructure. Remember the 
blackout of NYC some years ago?  How easily a country could be brought to its 
knees via the Internet.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: [email protected]

On 5/26/2017 8:13 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
You definitely have watched to much twilight zone and terminator as that’s not 
how it’s going to go.  YOu’re smarter than that.;). You and I both know that 
the machine revolution won’t be the machines trying to kill us, we’ll convert 
over willingly because someone will make it a must have product.  The robots 
won’t need to kill us, we’ll willingly be having more and more hardware 
installed until we eventually evolve in to a machine race.  I know you’re an 
alien guy, if you’d like to watch a good series that projects how the 
singularity will take place you should watch a program called Alien Encounters. 
 The premise is that we’ll be contacted by an alien quantum computer that 
convinces the population to plug in to it through brain implants. Then our 
government builds a quantum computer to combat the alien influence and the 
eventual result is we destroy the alien computer but ours predicts the future, 
realizes the planet is going to die, finds the alien home world and realizes 
it’s a machine planet as well and totally beams the entire contents of every 
being and every device on the planet to this world just before the planet is 
illuminated so our world persists.  I don’t do it justice it’s a very 
interesting show that they ran on the Science channel speculating about our 
first contact and our relationship with technology.  You’d probably like it.  I 
think something like this is much more likely than a robot shaped like Arnold 
trying to find Sarah Conner.


On May 26, 2017, at 10:49 M, E.T. <[email protected]> wrote:

 Scott I am surprised that you have not mentioned the ultimate which is a personal 
assistant that can wait on you hand and foot. Why, you could stay in bed 24/7 and have 
all your needs met there. What better? And no I am not talking about a "human" 
personal assistant, that is archaic. And then all this wonderful technology becomes your 
worst nightmare when that personal assistant turns on you. Maybe I have watched too much 
Twilight Zone.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: [email protected]

On 5/26/2017 7:19 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
Well, first, put me down in the pro speculators camp.  I’m with you Kawal and 
actually, I know people who make real money speculating.:). Oil speculation, 
commodities, even betting.

As for the digital assistance, I’m also on the other side of the coin than you 
and E.T.  I absolutely love having a way to interact with technology through 
voice.  I have three google home units in my house and will be adding more.  I 
can just say something like “play ancient aliens on master bedroom TV” and bam 
E.T’s favorite show is streaming in 4K on my bedroom big screen.  If you’re 
sitting there and you wonder say what’s the closest places to get ribs or where 
is the closest Chipotle you can just ask google and before you could type the 
request you’re hearing the answer with the option to have the map sent to your 
phone and a reservation made.  If I’m cold I can just ask google to increase 
the temperature 2 degrees or hey google, please turn off all the first floor 
lights so if they get left on they can be easily turned off and I don’t have to 
see them to know which light is on or off.  Suppose you’re trying a new recipe 
for macaroni and cheese, you can have the google home talk you through it 
telling you what ingredients to use and how much so you don’t have to stop and 
look it up or worry about reading while cooking.  Or how about this, something 
as simple as waking up and asking “Hey Google, how’s my day look”.  I’ll get a 
summary of the traffic on the way to work and any delays, the morning’s 
weather, financial reports and even the latest news from one of many sources (I 
personally use the BBC).  The Google home also recognizes voices so if my 
assistant asks google for what’s on his calendar he gets his data, not mine 
because Google identifies who you are and uses the correct data sources.  I can 
write custom applications, one thing I use is a system where I can say, “Hey 
google, I lost my phone” and it automatically calls and rings my phone so I can 
find it.  In other words, you can extend it’s functions your self.
        I guess bottom line I like interacting with machines in more ways than 
just a keyboard or touch screen.  Gives me that star ship enterprise vibe.  
Speaking of the enterprise, I can say “hey google, give me some sounds to sleep 
to” and I have it play a ten hour long recording of the sound of the enterprise 
bridge complete with engine rumble and the occasional indicator beep.  These 
boxes are so very useful and it’s only going to grow as more and more of our 
homes become equipped with artificial intelligence.  Frankly, one of the 
reasons I think you both have a hard Time getting your head around it is 
because Siri is so bad and if that’s the only experience you’ve had I don’t 
blame you.  However, the rest of the world has moved way beyond Siri.  Google 
uses real neural net technology so it learns as it goes.
        If you want to try a real deal digital assistant and you have the 
chance definitely have a conversation with Watson.  (The IBM deep machine 
learning effort). When you start to talk to Watson you really understand what 
Alan Turing meant by his test.


On May 25, 2017, at 6:13 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote:

Those of you who say that one should not speculate, about things, how about if 
I said that speculation is what the whole world does.  After all, and I'll be 
blunt here, people speculate all the time, especially the media, as they 
speculate every day when they write in their papers, they make judgments all 
the time as to what might happen next.  In fact, the human race do live on 
speculation or the world would not be exciting.  Life would be dull if one did 
not speculate, if things were predictable, then life would be boring!  So I 
will not apologise when i say what I say about Apple.

I have never been interested in an Amazon Echo as my phone can tell me what I 
need to know even if it's a bit dim.  Why do I need a speaker who will have a 
conversation with me?  I don't get why people are excited by an echo.  May be I 
am missing  something?  Please enlighten me.

Kawal.
On 24 May 2017, at 20:28, christopher hallsworth <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Hello, I agree with everything you say. Fascinating to speculate, but that is 
all.
On 23 May 2017, at 22:39, E.T. <[email protected]> wrote:

Kawal,
Being this product has not even been previewed at the WWDC yet, speculation can 
be a fascinating day dream. Maybe Siri is not up to snuff currently. Does not 
mean that it will remain so. Wait for the WWDC before passing judgement.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: [email protected]

On 5/23/2017 1:16 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
It's got to do a lot more than that if I were to purchase anything like that.  
If it's just a play back device with a few features added and (Siri not as good 
as having conversations with you), then I can't see anyone buying the speakers.

Kawal.
On 23 May 2017, at 14:43, Scott Granados <[email protected]> wrote:

Simon, it’s basically Siri in a box and from what I’ve read the box has some 
higher end audio features as well so it can double as an audio playback device.


On May 23, 2017, at 2:52 AM, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> wro device.

te:

Yes but what features will it have

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, 22 May 2017 5:21 AM
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Subject: Re: How about nte new Apple Speaker?

It's probably just a rumor, but it would be cool if they do make one.

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Subject: How about nte new Apple Speaker?


Hi.

I was listening to a blindness TechTalk show which is one of the shows that
RNIB broadcast on their RNIB Connect radio.  On it they stated that Apple
would be introducing a new Apple Speaker which I suppose would be in
competition with Amazon Echo or something along those lines, I don't know.
Anyone heard about this speaker?

Thanks.

Kawal.

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