I’ll be ordering one next week if all goes well glad to review it before you 
spend the bean.

> On Jun 8, 2017, at 4:46 PM, gary-melconian <gmelconian...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You got me convinced to get a few for my new house.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 1:41 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: So what do we think of the WWDC new hardware?
> 
> I know they made some hiring moves and brought in some heavy hitters from CMU.
> 
> Apple has the money to catch up and throw at the problem so I’m sure they 
> will but Google also has the money to keep the screws to Apple as well.  I’m 
> just very impressed with the Google assistant and google home.  That’s me 
> though.
> 
>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 4:30 PM, gary-melconian <gmelconian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Scott they ar ttrying to get dum siri to catch up to google assistant and 
>> alexa in the home .  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 12:11 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: So what do we think of the WWDC new hardware?
>> 
>> I’m not convinced about this home pod.  The fact they are banking on Siri as 
>> part of it disturbs me unless it has a quantum leap forward.  I suppose 
>> these are cheaper than Sonos but I just don’t know.  That’s more than 3 
>> times the cost of the Google Home.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 9:54 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Because right now, we're not that heavily invested in Sonos that we 
>>> couldn't switch.  If the HomePods sound better, and have more AI as Apple 
>>> suggests, why not switch?
>>> Donna
>>>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 4:11 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Donna,
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah I am wondering but why not just use sonos for everything, you know it 
>>>> works and works well.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 8 June 2017 12:02 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: So what do we think of the WWDC new hardware?
>>>> 
>>>> I have to admit, I'm intrigued by the Apple speakers.  I figure we can 
>>>> move our two Sonos Play One speakers out to the deck and use the Apple 
>>>> ones inside.  Looking forward to hearing what they sound like.
>>>> Donna
>>>>> On Jun 7, 2017, at 3:20 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can't say I've ever had issues with sound quality on my sonos and 
>>>>> the home pods will have to be pretty loody hot sounding for me to 
>>>>> purchase one or even two as my sonos speakers ldo the exact job the 
>>>>> home pods do and all from my phone.-----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terje 
>>>>> Strømberg
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 7 June 2017 4:03 AM
>>>>> To: Mac Group <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Cc: Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: So what do we think of the WWDC new hardware?
>>>>> 
>>>>> iPad Pro is interesting and i probably get one. iMac Pro looks like high 
>>>>> end if it runs reasonable quiet and cool. The speaker may have better 
>>>>> sound than Sonos. Did not say anything about speaker phone function. 
>>>>> Should be able to route the phone audio to the speaker. What is the 
>>>>> borring name again?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 6. jun. 2017 kl. 17.47 skrev E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Scott,
>>>>>> I see. A friend lost his 3rd to a scumbag and at that time the 3rd was 
>>>>>> no longer available so he got a 4th. He is happy with it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the 
>>>>>> world, all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn 
>>>>>> your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/6/2017 8:41 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>>>> So the accessibility sucks on the Apple TV 4th gen.  I myself prefer 
>>>>>>> the 3rd get from the perspective of a. user.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The apps are hit and miss when it comes to accessibility.  The Amazon 
>>>>>>> fire TV is less expensive, more powerful in terms of graphics and 
>>>>>>> processor and in my opinion the accessibility is more consistent.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:38 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Scott,
>>>>>>>> Perhaps our viewing habits are different. Might bve I do not 
>>>>>>>> know what I am missing but the ATV 3rd works just fine for me. 
>>>>>>>> One reason I want a 4fh is to add apps not available on the 3rd. Got a 
>>>>>>>> 4th?
>>>>>>>> Send it to me. (smiles)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the 
>>>>>>>> world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn 
>>>>>>>> your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 6/6/2017 8:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The Apple TV isn’t that great.  The amazon fire TV is a better unit 
>>>>>>>>> in my opinion.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 6:31 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> A single keyboard that has all of the characters, no more switching 
>>>>>>>>>> to get numbers or punctuation.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Some other changes, one of which may be good is a Files app probably 
>>>>>>>>>> like Finder. Also a document scan function.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> iPhone 5 and 5c will be left behind as well as iPad 4th and older. I 
>>>>>>>>>> still have an iPad mini 2nd but would rather get an Apple TV 4th if 
>>>>>>>>>> I had the bucks.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the 
>>>>>>>>>> world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn 
>>>>>>>>>> your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2017 3:25 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> So I missed the event.  I'll watch it eventually, but what are 
>>>>>>>>>>> people excited about in IOS 11?  Also, any updates to the MBA?
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:22 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will definitely get a new iPhone before September so I can run 
>>>>>>>>>>>> iOS 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You 
>>>>>>>>>>>> simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2017 1:38 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what does everyone think of the announcements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I’m going to leave the home speaker on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> store shelf but the new iMac Pro is calling my name.  Being 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to have 18 cores and 128 GB of RAM as well s 16 GB of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> video memory is pretty hot.  Granted the device starts a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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