Hi Tim,

 Do you not have a current apple watch?

 I use it with vo and find it great,sluggish in some cases but very usable.
God help me if there is a series 3 watch out later this year,
 I’m having trouble keeping up with what I want next 

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On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Friday, 16 June 2017 7:45 AM
To: Macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: So what do we think of the WWDC new hardware?

I want to know if a new Apple watch is coming out and get honest opinion from a 
person who uses it with voice Over.  Also, what is a magic keyboard?  I have an 
old Apple keyboard where you need to put batteries in to make it work.  If I 
were to get any keyboards, I'd need two keyboards and two new trackpads but at 
the moment, all my equipment is working here properly and I don't know what I'd 
do with the old keyboards and trackpads.  That's why I haven't bought anything 
yet.

Kawal.
> On 15 Jun 2017, at 20:40, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We still use lots of those older keyboards that came with the eMacs and the 
> original white iMacs.  They're quite sturdy old things, and the students 
> don't pick off the keys as much as they do with the newer aluminum kind.  I 
> prefer typing on the newer aluminum ones, but can't beat the toughness of 
> those older ones.  They also go through the dishwasher nicely when they need 
> a cleaning :).
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 13:25, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My primary keyboard on a Macintosh is still one from a eMac that came with a 
> G4 processor.
> Please give a shout out about the new keyboard once you have used it for a 
> week.
> 
> On 15 June 2017 at 13:43, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think I’d like the one with the keypad, I may have to try that out.  
> Starting to really like the original version though.  Work was good enough to 
> pick one up for me, it’s the first time I’ve used one.  Love it so far.
> 
> 
> > On Jun 14, 2017, at 4:40 PM, christopher hallsworth 
> > <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, I love the Magic Keyboard and am glad the original incarnation is 
> > still available, together with the new Magic Keyboard 2 with numeric keypad.
> >> On 6 Jun 2017, at 16:25, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Actually, Mary, that’s not quite correct.  The wireless keyboards from 
> >> Apple (magic keyboards) are quite good and I’m like you picky about m y 
> >> keyboards.  I do not like the one included on the laptop itself but the 
> >> one I use wirelessly from Apple is quite comfortable and has all the keys 
> >> including function.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:19 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think the new home speaker could be interesting, especially as a stereo 
> >>> pair, if the sound is really good, and if Apple gets his act together 
> >>> with Siri. It's clearly way behind google at this point. The idea that 
> >>> this new speaker will be smart enough to know where it is in a room and 
> >>> adjust its output accordingly is interesting. I am not the least bit 
> >>> interested in the Mac pro, iMac Pro. The price is absurd for anything I 
> >>> would want. I'm disappointed about the mini not getting refreshed, but 
> >>> not surprised. And I think the new stuff for the iPad in iOS 11 has 
> >>> really good potential, although I will be curious to see how it all works 
> >>> with voiceover. I was excited about the announcement of a new Bluetooth 
> >>> keyboard and that includes the number pad, only to be disappointed when I 
> >>> realized it has the same awful feel as all of the new notebook keyboards 
> >>> that Apple has been producing. No key travel to speak up and no spacing 
> >>> between the keys. No thank you. Why oh why can't they make a keyboard 
> >>> that really works well for touch typist? That is after all, who does most 
> >>> of the serious typing in the world.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> 
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> So what does everyone think of the announcements.
> >>>>
> >>>> Personally, I’m going to leave the home speaker on the store shelf but 
> >>>> the new iMac Pro is calling my name.  Being able to have 18 cores and 
> >>>> 128 GB of RAM as well s 16 GB of video memory is pretty hot.  Granted 
> >>>> the device starts a
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