Oh I wouldn’t be so sure. There’s a lot of hobbyistss out there who will try
to and once successful crack and publish their findings. Remember the whole
Clipper project was undone for Uncle Sam by a lowly intern at Bell Labs who was
cracking clipper while getting coffee.:)
That or the Military will come up with something so much better for
it’s own uses they will release their old tech for commercial use. Let’s not
forget the old GPS signal used to have a fudge factor injected to deliberately
detune the measurement capabilities of civilian applications. Stopped a long
time ago but as time passes and more competition happens in the space who
knows. A lot of global positioning systems are in the works or under way now.
The Chinese, Russians, US, India, South America, Europeans and Middle East just
to name a few.
> On Jun 28, 2017, at 7:25 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You got that right about the military signals. Not going to happen.
> Mary
>
>
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>
>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I had the exact same thought. I wonder if they use the gyro or something to
>> help. Plus you have the regular deviation in the GPS signal depending on
>> signal conditions.
>> I wish we could get access to the military encrypted signals, sub meter
>> way finding would be nice.
>>
>>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I remember that portable receiver as well. I will be curious if you try it.
>>> The problem I see with this approach is that the actual GPS Mark, so to
>>> speak, is often some ways away from the actual building you're trying to go
>>> to. It might be in a parking lot for instance. Or so I have heard from the
>>> makers of nearby explorer and Seeing Eye GPS. The folks who decide where
>>> exactly on the map or whatever it is that GPS is keying on our more
>>> interested in cars getting to where they're going and pedestrians
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good ol Smith-Kettlewell, I remember building some of their projects when
>>>> I was in school. I will definitely check out this app.
>>>> The physical talking signs unit was very simple but effective. You
>>>> pointed a small IR receiver that converted the IR signal to speech and the
>>>> clearer the sound the more closely aligned to the correct direction you
>>>> were. They put transmitters over the tracks at the train station with the
>>>> track number for example or over the Subway sub shop sign directly over
>>>> the door.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 5:30 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Smith-Kettlewell, the developers of Talking Signs, put out an app called
>>>>> Over There, which works on the iPhone like the Talking Signs receiver. It
>>>>> uses GPS and the Google Places database.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27/06/2017, at 23:55, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s
>>>>>> included. How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something
>>>>>> different? I used to like the talking signs system that was deployed in
>>>>>> several public transit and similar areas in San Francisco. Used very
>>>>>> simple analog Infrared signals but was fairly effective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta.
>>>>>>> Just because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing
>>>>>>> was added to accessibility.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk
>>>>>>> about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Specifically indoor navigation with support for several malls and
>>>>>>> airports. I highly expect Tysons Cornerr, a mall that is only two miles
>>>>>>> from my house , to be a good candidate. Not only is the mall packed
>>>>>>> every weekend and most evenings, it was also the site of the first
>>>>>>> Apple Retail store. So I am hoping that the indoor navigation helps me
>>>>>>> verify if I have passed Nordstroms or still have 200 feet to go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Wishes,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonathan
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