My advice is to be careful. Yes, there's lots of power available in the
command line tools and, yes, Apple engineers use them.

The careful part is that VO is a pretty clunky screen reader for the
terminal, so you're not really gaining the accessibility edge that you
might reasonably expect from the command line.

But, even if you have a solid Linux system with Speakup or Brltty that
you can use to ssh into your Mac, you still need to be careful. Many
Unix commands are very standard and operate in pretty standard ways
across all flavors of Unix variants, but this is not true for devices.
How devices are addressed and managed will vary widely.

I guess what I'm suggesting is that, if you really know OS X device
management, and you have a strong console/terminal screen reader to work
with over ssh, then you'll find solid value in the terminal.

My personal experience does not yet go to disk formatting on the Mac. I
have, however, done some of the simple things like installing
applications that essentially require you to move a folder to
/Applications. I have also tweaked my VMware machine's dhcp settings to
assign static ip addresses over dhcp by editing the relevant VMware
files.


hth

Janina

Simon Fogarty writes:
> Yeah I don't know about anyone else but I'm starting to think I need to use 
> terminal to carry out multiple partitioning on devices like Flash Drives and 
> external drives,
> 
> So I'm thinking the terminal command line version of disk utilities 
> Might be the best option to do what I need to do.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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> Subject: Re: How to use terminal?
> 
> And, I, on the other hand, do as much as I possibly can in a terminal on 
> whatever OS I find myself on.
> 
> So, there you go. Different strokes for different folks ... or whatever 
> aphorism you might prefer at this spot. Isn't diversity wonderful?
> 
> Janina
> 
> E.T. writes:
> >    I do as little as possible in Terminal, One instance where I used 
> > my password was when creating an installer.
> > 
> > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> >   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
> >   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
> >   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> >   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> > E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> > 
> > On 6/28/2017 7:21 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
> > > Ah, be very careful of any command in terminal that requires your 
> > > password. These are commands that are using the "sudo" command.
> > > 
> > > Sudo essentially says run this as root which is the most privileged 
> > > user on a UNIX system. While you can not break system files in 
> > > Sierra due to extra security added, any file in user space can be 
> > > viewed or modified when you use the sudo command.
> > > Why sudo you might ask? Well originally there was su for substitute 
> > > user. This allows one to access the computer with another 
> > > permissions for a while.
> > > 
> > > sudo is a bit more secure in that:
> > > 1. There is a configuration file in /etc/sudoers that says what 
> > > commands can be executed by whom whith what rights.
> > > 2. It prompts you four your password rather than the person you are 
> > > trying to execute as so there is no need to share a password to do 
> > > this work.
> > > 
> > > Take care,
> > > Jonathan Cohn
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On Jun 27, 2017, at 4:51 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> > > > <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >   Last I ran Terminal, I simply pasted code in and pressed enter. 
> > > > In some cases you may be asked for your log in password.
> > > > 
> > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> > > >  "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the 
> > > > world, all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn 
> > > > your mind off  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> > > > E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> > > > <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
> > > > 
> > > > On 6/27/2017 1:48 PM, Sharon Hooley wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I want to try copying and pasting the coding that was sent earlier.
> > > > >  I found Terminal in the “others” folder.  when I entered I 
> > > > > found my last log-in date, among other things, including shell .  
> > > > > I don’t know where to type or paste.  .  Then I inadvertently 
> > > > > closed the window so that it said, “Terminal has no windows”.  
> > > > > So how, exactly, do I use it to put in code?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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