I agree!  That's the one thing I really hate about the Mac.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jul 1, 2017, at 5:04 AM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It really annoys me that you have to use so many keys to do something so 
> simple.
> 
> On 7/1/17, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> Hi Cait. Actually, anyone that has Sierra installed will be able to run High
>> Sierra. That includes mid 2010 Macs like mine. And as for the extra key,
>> they did this so that accessing the navigation rotor is easier for people.
>> But I do understand that it may be an inconvenience for some people.
>> 
>> Shawn
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>>> On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:43 AM, Caitlyn Furness <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I couldn’t imagine them taking away a vital way of fiddling with your vo
>>> options!
>>> 
>>> and, alas, my own mac, a mid 2010 model, will probably soon not be able to
>>> handle upcoming OS’s..  guess I better start putting money into the piggy
>>> bank..
>>> 
>>> Cait
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 1, 2017, at 1:37 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net
>>>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> At least so far as I am aware, you are not losing your mind.  Bear in
>>>> mind, however, that since this here mid 2009 Mac book pro cannot handle
>>>> any form of Sera, I had to wing it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
>>>> built-in
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>>> 
>>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
>>>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:01 AM, Caitlyn Furness <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks ray, I thought maybe I was losing my mind!  lol
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cait
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:49 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net
>>>>>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You sure you weren’t using VO+CMD+arrow keys?  That’s the way you
>>>>>> actually do it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
>>>>>> blind built-in
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon
>>>>>> Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 30, 2017, at 11:45 PM, Daniel Chavez <topdog2...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:topdog2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Good day list,
>>>>>>> I was wondering why, on the new High Sierra for Mac, did they take
>>>>>>> away VO plus right arrow, so that you can quickly change things (e.g.,
>>>>>>> speech rate, volume, etc?)
>>>>>>> I don't seem to be able to use VO plus right arrow any longer to
>>>>>>> adjust those values, and was wondering how else can I adjust stuff
>>>>>>> like speech rate on the fly? When I use VO plus right arrow now, it
>>>>>>> shows only stuff like, (If I'm on my desktop), words, characters, web
>>>>>>> spots, navigation, etc.)
>>>>>>> No longer do I see speech rate, volume, or none of the options
>>>>>>> available when Mac OS Sierra was a fully released version. Do I have
>>>>>>> to now use Voiceover Utility from now on to configure what I want? I
>>>>>>> went into VO help, but it doesn't give me what I need as far as a
>>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>>> Thanks for any help that can be provided.
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