Charter is one o the worse. By rebranding themselves. Its even gotten wore form 
friends who I know who areo n it. there are looking for laternativs ot jump 
from charter now rebranded as spectrum.  

-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 12:03 PM
To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Windstream versus Cox?

Well you could always give charter a shot and if you don’t like them go to plan 
B.  At least they install quickly or they did up here in the north east.  I had 
them while I was waiting for the fiber build for my home which took about a 
month.  Tolerable but not nearly the performer FIOS is.
 
> On Jul 10, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> It does help, thanks! Once I get done unpacking boxes, I will definitely 
> explore this a little bit further. I certainly don't want to be down for five 
> days every time our Internet goes out. :-) Thanks Scott.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 1:30 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>> 
>> It’s just a different thing.
>> 
>> Instead of going through a phone company to get to your house like the local 
>> bell for DSL or cable they use a wireless system.  There’s a central tower 
>> with sector panels on top and then they point these small panel looking 
>> antennas towards the tower for service.  You might stick a panel on your 
>> roof or your side or even just set it in a window depending on your view of 
>> the tower.  Speeds from 1 megabit up to hundreds is usually available.  
>>   Whether it’s good or not depends on how it’s built out like most things.  
>> If they used licensed spectrum and good quality gear it usually works great. 
>>  If they use regular WiFi gear you can have mixed results.  Also depends on 
>> geography and the view of the tower but that’s what the site survey is for.
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, when I was reading about them, it said something about them being 
>>> fixed wireless providers. Sorry if this is a dumb question but what exactly 
>>> does that mean? Is it a good thing or a bad thing? :-)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 1:19 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I know a little bit about them.  I believe both are fixed wireless 
>>>> providers so they may install a small panel on your home that broadcasts 
>>>> back to a tower.  Some used licensed space and others use regular non 
>>>> licensed WiFi frequencies.  I believe they were a member of the 
>>>> ISP-Wireless and some other groups I used to be a part of when I was in 
>>>> the provider game.  Wouldn’t hurt to havre a free home site survey done to 
>>>> see if you could reach their tower.  Depends on how long they make you 
>>>> wait for the luxury.:)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 1:58 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, Scott. The two that seem to get the most favorable reviews are 
>>>>> future technologies and rise broadband. Happen to know either of them? 
>>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Feel free to post the names of who is available to you locally.  You 
>>>>>> never know I may know one or two of them and can help you get taken 
>>>>>> seriously.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Oh, that's too bad!  Thanks for the warning, though. Maybe I'll take a 
>>>>>>> closer look at some of the smaller providers. There's one that got 
>>>>>>> reviewed well, but they want to contract, and I don't. :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 10:57 AM, Scott Granados 
>>>>>>>> <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Oh you definitely don’t want charter.  I had them before FIOS.  The 
>>>>>>>> signal constantly dropped out, internet was about half as fast as 
>>>>>>>> advertised, very hard to cancel, hold times over an hour when you 
>>>>>>>> needed anything.  If you’re hesitant about the smaller guys just wait 
>>>>>>>> until you get hooked up to a big one.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You might have a local fiber or high speed provider that would do you 
>>>>>>>> better.  Your call though.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 11:53 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> There are a couple, but at the moment I'm feeling sort of negative 
>>>>>>>>> about small local guys.  Looks like Charter is going to be the large 
>>>>>>>>> provider alternative.
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Scott Granados 
>>>>>>>>>> <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Any smaller local guys you can work with or your town possibly?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 10:48 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> That does sound refreshing. Unfortunately I just called them, and 
>>>>>>>>>>> they don't service our address. Sigh!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 9:39 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like you'll feel right at home with a larger service 
>>>>>>>>>>>> provider :) Can't speak to Windstream but I've had Cox for years 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and they have generally been solid. I bought my own cablemodem so 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't have to pay the rent for that and plugged that into an 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple AirPort. Had hiccups whenever the power burped but I added a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> UPS and now things are pretty flawless. I can't recall the last 
>>>>>>>>>>>> time I had an outage.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/10/17 10:31 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I've already got the Winnstream blues. They hooked up our 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> service late Thursday afternoon in less than 24 hours it had 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> already gone down. And they're telling me that it won't be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> restored until Wednesday. I'm on impressed! I've spent hours on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the phone with them and all calls have resulted in absolutely 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing. So, since I'm really not interested in giving our money 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a company that thinks it's OK to leave customers without 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> service for five days, I am thinking about switching to Cox.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Scott Granados 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windstream is a smaller company, out of Rhode Island oddly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough I think.  Cox is a pretty major cable provider. So you’ll 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably get fewer services but more personal attention at wind 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stream and the big company blues but lots more options with Cox. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I would put a Cox cable in the category with a Comcast.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm dealing with getting new Internet service set up at our new 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> house. I'm feeling a bit underwhelmed at the moment by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windstream, I'm considering Cox as an alternative. Just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondered if anyone on this list knew anything about either 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provider and had either good things or bad things to say about 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their experiences with them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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