That will be resolved on the new phones coming out over the next couple 
quarters if it hasn’t been already.  T-Mobile is building new sites like crazy. 
 The 600 MHz spectrum will help fill in the gaps.  T-mobile actually just 
passed verizon in percent of population covered but I’m sure VZ still has the 
edge in more  rural areas they are losing that edge slowly.  VZ is now the 3rd 
from the top when it comes to speed having just been passed by AT&T and 
T-Mobile is at the top.  The coverage game amazes me though that VZ has lost 
the lead.  If you remember though in the 3G networks they were the slowest of 
the 2 CDMA networks, Sprint at that time was the best with EV-DO Rev A, on GSM 
T-Mobile had horrible coverage but great speed and AT&T was buried by iPhones.  
The race to 4 and 5G  will be interesting.  


On Aug 15, 2017, at 10:46 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> T-Mobile definitely has a long way to go here out west once you get off the 
> major highways and out of the major towns. Shoot. Nine or so blocks south of 
> my house, still well in the city, T-Mobile coverage sucks. Fortunately, I 
> don't have to go there. But this is where Verizon still kicked T-Mobile's 
> butt.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 7:42 PM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Scott your totally right it depends on your area. I would say try and
>> give them a test drive if possible. T-Mobile could be better where I
>> live and I have even talked to reps about making that happen. I still
>> love the service because I have a nice cell spot in my house and when
>> I got in the city I normally have pretty good service. It's just alone
>> some of these country roads I have issues.
>> 
>>> On 8/15/17, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I know T-Mobile does, Metro I know has an unlimited talk plan not sure on
>>> their data although they are less expensive.  I know you get 3G but I’m not
>>> sure the 4G data pricing for unlimited.  I’d go with T-Mobile direct if I
>>> were going down this path.  I use them and love their network but your
>>> milage may vary depending on your area.
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 9:18 PM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, I’m confused; do both t-mobile and metro PCS now offer unlimitted
>>>> data, or just t-mobile?
>>>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m on an older plan that offers up to 10 lines for $50 per but the new
>>>>> plans I believe are $45 all in including taxes tag and title.:). It’s
>>>>> either $45 or $50 something in that range.  They include the tax in the
>>>>> total amount as does Metro PCS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How much are you paying for t-mobile’s unlimitted service with taxes and
>>>>>> the like?
>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 2:49 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nothing is the same from 4 years ago or longer.  T-Mobile took them
>>>>>>> over some time ago and now runs Metro PCS on their own network.  All
>>>>>>> the provisioning is the same as regular T-Mobile phones.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If I had the choice I’d go with T-Mobile directly but Metro isn’t a bad
>>>>>>> idea if you need the savings.  T-Mobile definitely offers unlimited,
>>>>>>> Metro offers 2 GB of 4G data and then unlimited 3G I believe but it’s
>>>>>>> worth a call to them to make sure.  T-Mobile’s unlimited service is
>>>>>>> very good though, I use it my self and use 20 or more gigs per month on
>>>>>>> average with out problem.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Do both of those actually have unlimitted data though?  The last time
>>>>>>>> I checked, metro pcs didn’t, but that was several years ago and that
>>>>>>>> could’ve changed.
>>>>>>>> I was going to switch to them about 4 years ago, and went to a store
>>>>>>>> in the Orlando area, and immediately decided not to, partly because
>>>>>>>> they weren’t carrying the phone I wanted, and I couldn’t port the one
>>>>>>>> I already had over, that I’d already paid about $400 for, plus the
>>>>>>>> price for the mobile speak software, and on top of that, about 3 other
>>>>>>>> customers ahead of me had complaints about how they’d downloaded apps
>>>>>>>> on to their phones that refused to download, but were still charged
>>>>>>>> for them.
>>>>>>>> So at that point, I decided it wasn’t worth it, along with along with
>>>>>>>> all the dropped calls I was getting from a friend of mine who at one
>>>>>>>> point in time already had it.
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Scott Granados
>>>>>>>>> <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Remember though, in the end you’re still on the Sprint network which
>>>>>>>>> is no picnic.  Sprint’s network performed so badly in the last round
>>>>>>>>> of testing of the big 4 networks they had their results dropped from
>>>>>>>>> consideration for being so slow.  To give you an example, T-Mobile
>>>>>>>>> averages 30 megabits per second and Sprint averages less than 15.
>>>>>>>>> You also have very poor LTE coverage compared to the other carriers
>>>>>>>>> and because Sprint has only extremely high frequency spectrum the
>>>>>>>>> penetration in to buildings is difficult at best.
>>>>>>>>>   T-Mobile has a 45$ all in plan as well worth looking at and Metro
>>>>>>>>> PCS which is T-Mobile rebranded has a $30 plan.  I’d definitely shop
>>>>>>>>> around and try to get a better performing network for the same or
>>>>>>>>> less money.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Just my $.02
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Mika Pyyhkala <pyyhk...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I don't see any reason why Sprint would not take you back as a
>>>>>>>>>> customer.
>>>>>>>>>> You may just have to check also on the number porting if that is
>>>>>>>>>> important to you.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> Mika
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/15/17, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanx so much for passing this along.  I wish they’d stated
>>>>>>>>>>> however,
>>>>>>>>>>> where/how to obtain this new service, sense I’m really interested
>>>>>>>>>>> in trying
>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>> I really need to cut back as much as possible on my spending, so
>>>>>>>>>>> this may
>>>>>>>>>>> be right up my alley.  I wonder however, if they’re apparently
>>>>>>>>>>> affiliated
>>>>>>>>>>> with Sprint, and you’re a current Sprint customer who joins the
>>>>>>>>>>> service and
>>>>>>>>>>> not satisfied with it, what the likelyhood would be that you could
>>>>>>>>>>> go back
>>>>>>>>>>> to Sprint.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 1:24 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> CNET News - Monday, August 14, 2017 at 6:50 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Get an unlimited no-contract phone plan for $45 - CNET
>>>>>>>>>>>> CNET's Cheapskate scours the web for great deals on PCs, phones,
>>>>>>>>>>>> gadgets
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> much more. Questions about the Cheapskate blog? Find the answers
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rok Mobile's new plan undercuts Sprint by $5 a month. You can use
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> savings to buy them some vowels.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rok Mobile
>>>>>>>>>>>> How much data do you typically consume in a month? The average is
>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere
>>>>>>>>>>>> around 3-4GB, in which case Cricket Wireless offers arguably the
>>>>>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>>>>> deal
>>>>>>>>>>>> around: $35 a month (with autopay) for a plan that includes 4GB of
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4G LTE
>>>>>>>>>>>> data. Cricket is a GSM carrier, however, and 4GB may not be enough
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Indeed, if you're packing a Sprint-compatible CDMA phone and you
>>>>>>>>>>>> like to
>>>>>>>>>>>> stream a lot of video, you're probably more interested in an
>>>>>>>>>>>> unlimited
>>>>>>>>>>>> plan.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Verizon charges $80 per month for the privilege, while Sprint is
>>>>>>>>>>>> quite a
>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>>>>> more affordable at $50. But now there's an even better deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile virtual network operator (MVNO) Rok Mobile just introduced
>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>> unlimited Sprint-network plan for $45 per month. That would save
>>>>>>>>>>>> you $60
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> year over Sprint and $420 over Verizon. What's more, that plan
>>>>>>>>>>>> includes
>>>>>>>>>>>> 24/7
>>>>>>>>>>>> roadside assistance -- kind of a weird extra, but also a pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>> nice perk
>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't already have AAA or the like.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rok who-now?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rok Mobile has been around for a few years; the carrier's early
>>>>>>>>>>>> claim to
>>>>>>>>>>>> fame was a bundled music-streaming service, but that option is no
>>>>>>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead, you're basically scoring Sprint's $50-a-month plan for
>>>>>>>>>>>> $45 a
>>>>>>>>>>>> month
>>>>>>>>>>>> and getting the aforementioned tow-truck benefit.
>>>>>>>>>>>> That plan includes unlimited voice minutes, text messages and 4G
>>>>>>>>>>>> LTE
>>>>>>>>>>>> data.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is the data really unlimited, though? Rok "may reduce to slower
>>>>>>>>>>>> speeds
>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>> 20GB of LTE usage," according to a company rep. That's a common
>>>>>>>>>>>> practice;
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure Sprint does likewise after 22GB.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Another common practice: Rok's "Data Stretcher" streams video at a
>>>>>>>>>>>> lower
>>>>>>>>>>>> resolution so you consume less data. Curiously, however, this
>>>>>>>>>>>> works only
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> Android devices, according to the carrier's FAQ page.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Speaking of phones, you should be able to bring any unlocked,
>>>>>>>>>>>> CDMA-compatible model to Rok, though of course you'll need to do
>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>> IMEI-number check before signing up. It's worth noting that many
>>>>>>>>>>>> modern
>>>>>>>>>>>> phones (Google Nexuses, some Samsung Galaxys, late-model iPhones,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and so
>>>>>>>>>>>> on)
>>>>>>>>>>>> can work on both GSM and CDMA networks, so if you were previously
>>>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>>> GSM
>>>>>>>>>>>> carrier, you should be able to make the move.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Deal or no deal?
>>>>>>>>>>>> The other consideration, of course, is coverage. For many users
>>>>>>>>>>>> (myself
>>>>>>>>>>>> included), Sprint coverage is, um, not excellent. Rok notes that
>>>>>>>>>>>> it now
>>>>>>>>>>>> leverages both Sprint and "the nation's most reliable other CDMA
>>>>>>>>>>>> network,"
>>>>>>>>>>>> which is MVNO-speak for "Verizon."
>>>>>>>>>>>> This particular plan is specifically identified as a "Sprint
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unlimited,"
>>>>>>>>>>>> however, which suggests to me that you'll be limited to Sprint's
>>>>>>>>>>>> network
>>>>>>>>>>>> only. I asked Rok for clarification on that; the answer I got was
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>>>>>> vague.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But here's the beauty of no-contract services like this: You try
>>>>>>>>>>>> it out
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> a month or two, and if you're not happy, you move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bonus deal: It's not exactly an impulse buy, but if you've had
>>>>>>>>>>>> your eye on
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> big iPad, here's a significant savings: For a limited time, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>>>> supplies last, BuySpry (via eBay) has the Apple iPad Pro 12.9
>>>>>>>>>>>> 256GB Wi-Fi
>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cellular for $799.99 shipped. Apple charges $1,029.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pull in local stations (hopefully) with this amplified antenna.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vansky
>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the catch? These are new, sealed iPads, but apparently
>>>>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>> the "European model with US charger" -- meaning no discernible
>>>>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>>>>>>> from the US model, at least according to the seller. And it comes
>>>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>>> full Apple warranty. So if you want the premium, loaded iPad Pro
>>>>>>>>>>>> 12.9 for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the price of the entry-level model, here you go!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bonus deal No. 2: Ditching cable usually means ditching local
>>>>>>>>>>>> channels --
>>>>>>>>>>>> unless you connect an antenna and take advantage of your TV's
>>>>>>>>>>>> built-in
>>>>>>>>>>>> tuner. (You remember antennas and tuners, right?)
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, but can one of those flat, plastic antennas really do the
>>>>>>>>>>>> job?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Depends
>>>>>>>>>>>> on where you live, how the antenna is positioned and other
>>>>>>>>>>>> variables. But
>>>>>>>>>>>> here's your chance to test-drive the setup on the cheap: Vansky's
>>>>>>>>>>>> transparent indoor amplified antenna is $16.99 shipped (with
>>>>>>>>>>>> Prime) when
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> apply promo code IIJUEF17 at checkout.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Promising to pull in channels up to 50 miles away, this mostly
>>>>>>>>>>>> see-through
>>>>>>>>>>>> antenna will work best when mounted high up on a window. How far
>>>>>>>>>>>> do you
>>>>>>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>>>>>>> from the stations in your area? Visit AntennaWeb to find out.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Products
>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>> these can be very hit-and-miss, working great for some folks and
>>>>>>>>>>>> poorly
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> others. Fortunately, Amazon makes it easy to return items that
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> work,
>>>>>>>>>>>> so you've got nothing to lose by trying.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Article at:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cnet.com/news/get-an-unlimited-no-contract-phone-plan-for-45/#ft
>>>>>>>>>>>> ag=CAD590a51e
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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