Thanks all for your responses. I have to agree with Alex. The suggestion that 
he and Anne made seems to me to be by far the easiest to implement. John, yes a 
keyboard commander command would also be an option, but using the number keys 
works pretty well.
Cheers,
Donna

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> On Aug 30, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Jonathan Cohn <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> Does sound a bit convoluted. You can always create a keyboard commander to do 
> this either option o, option p or option 8 would make sense to me.
> 
> So, bring up  VO Utility  (vo-H (twice) and then type util )
> 
> Move to commanders  command-8 
> Select the  keyboard tab 
> Press the Add button.
> type the shortcut you want to use
> Hit tab and find in the "General Menu" Open VoiceOver Utility.
> Close Voice Over Utility 
> 
> 
> Test things out.
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Jonathan 
> 
>> On 29 August 2017 at 13:59, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi, Jerry and all,
>> 
>> I was referring to going into VoiceOver preferences, not to turning 
>> voiceover on and off. But thanks for the help anyway. :-)
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 9:23 AM, Gerry Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> sorry Donna i meant! hold the command key down while pressing the touch i.d 
>>> 3 times to turn voiceover on and off.   
>>> cheers gerry have a nice day
>>> Email: [email protected]
>>> Skype: gerry.cook1 
>>> Twitter: @gerrycook52
>>> 
>>>> On 30 Aug 2017, at 12:11 am, Gerry Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Donna press command and power button quickly 3 times to turn voiceover 
>>>> on and off 
>>>> cheers gerry have a nice day
>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>> Skype: gerry.cook1 
>>>> Twitter: @gerrycook52
>>>> 
>>>>> On 29 Aug 2017, at 9:19 pm, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe I just haven't had enough coffee yet, but has anyone found a way to 
>>>>> do this?  Google was not helpful. :)
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Donna
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