Sorry, but I think someone needs the dose on their psychiatric medication increased. If they think dogs/wolves domesticated us. I am reminded of a line off a British comedy. "There are more nuts outside the bin then there are in." hence forth, I will not perpetuate this psychiatrically challenged thread.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: September 1, 2017 9:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Using my iPhone on a camping trip Definitely true and definitely way more than 6,000 years ago when the wolf began to domesticate humans. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: [email protected] On 9/1/2017 8:57 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > Actually David you’re a little historically inaccurate in a way. I see your > point but let’s remember, dogs selected humans originally through out history > it wasn’t humans who captured and tamed the dogs. Way back in prehistoric > times (again more than 6000 years ago for the mentally deficient) dogs > selected humans to be close to for what reason, food! Dogs leveraged their > cute furry nature and eventually came in close enough to humans around fires > because of the food being cooked. We all know how our furry friends can be > they started to leverage their cuteness and turn that in to a meal. As time > passed humans began to use food to start to work with the dogs and then over > time more detailed and advanced training methods were developed. Training a > dog with a treat is as natural a method as any and is probably the oldest > method historically speaking. You’re absolutely right that verbal praise can > be a good positive reenforcement so let’s say that you’re both right. > > >> On Sep 1, 2017, at 11:36 AM, David & his pack of dogs >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> People must pay bills each month unless you are a gigolo or a kept woman. >> Dogs don't. The public by into this fallacy that dogs only work for food. >> What do they get? Fat dogs. The reality is, these people are secretly >> trying to buy the dog's affection. You can reward a dog for a job well done >> with verbal praise, and they don't get fat on that. Then you have a >> contented and hardworking dog who, yes does get fed but, not just for the >> handler's sake, to buy the dog's affection, we all need food to live. >> However, as mentioned dogs should not be free fed just as people should not >> be eating all the time either. I have worked with dogs most have condemned >> to be euthanized and, have rarely used treats to motivate them to work. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of E.T. >> Sent: September 1, 2017 8:12 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Using my iPhone on a camping trip >> >> Outhouses. Now that was a stretch. Remember, Labs are Hoovers. They live >> for that kibble, its bribery but humans like to get paid with a check every >> week so why not pay the hard working guide dog. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >> E-mail: [email protected] >> >> On 9/1/2017 8:03 AM, David & his pack of dogs wrote: >>> After going to the Pit toilet or whatever people call a wooden shed, a >>> well-trained guide dog should be able to take their handler back to the >>> camping area. Dogs not even trained by schools have taken their totally >>> blind persons back to the camping area with no problem. As for the person >>> who hopefully was flippant when he mentioned about bribing a dog to work, >>> must be a certified trainer for one of the California guide dog schools in >>> the U S. Who, if they are not suggesting they will give you a guide if you >>> have or provide sex for them and if you don't you don't get a guide dog. >>> Or, they find some fictitious reason to keep back a guide dog and send you >>> home sans guide dog because they secretly take a bribe to keep the dog so >>> when, they retire the following year, they have a nest egg to fall back on. >>> Oh, I forgot to mention the trainer who on an interview with a potential >>> guide dog user, asked where the bathroom was, clear directions were given >>> but, on the way to that room, he opened closed doors and looked in each >>> room including passing the washroom and looking in that bedroom as well. >>> One must wonder if he cannot follow clear directions to a place. How can >>> he properly train a dog? Or, if he does that in a stranger's home, what >>> will he do on class? Will he too, make a nocturnal visit to a female >>> student's bedroom and have sex with her as well? These kinds of male and >>> female trainers give the good trainers a bad name and the schools where >>> they are working as well. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty >>> Sent: September 1, 2017 3:11 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Using my iphone on a camping trip >>> >>> I don't really get this, >>> >>> What sort of camp out areas do you folks have over there? >>> >>> Over here you walk in to the bush and dig a hole where no one else can >>> see you then squat! >>> >>> And if need be drop a match on the paper to get rid of the waste. >>> >>> Fill the hole in and go back to yoru tent. >>> >>> If you are staying in what we call a camping ground then there must be some >>> kind of road way, have the dog follow the edge of the road in the direction >>> of the toilet block and then when it gets near have the dog find it as it >>> should. >>> >>> Of course finding your way back to the lodging might be different >>> but surely the dog can smell it's food or someone can keep an eye >>> out for you on the return >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson >>> Sent: Friday, 1 September 2017 6:47 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Using my iphone on a camping trip >>> >>> Scott I'm pretty sure, you're going to have something to say about this. >>> But I hate to burst your bubble. Tim's information is correct to an extent. >>> However yours is completely wrong. If you have no service whatsoever on >>> your device, the phone, will not pick up a GPS location. I have recently >>> tried this. When I've had absolutely no service. The only way it works, >>> when you have no service. As if you have previously loaded your route, >>> before you lost service. So I hope this clarifies things. >>> Joseph Hudson >>> >>> Email >>> [email protected] >>> I device support >>> Telephone >>> 2543007667 >>> Skype >>> joseph.hudson89 >>> facebook >>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 >>> Twitter >>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 >>> >>> FaceTime/iMessage >>> [email protected] >>> >>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 1:39 PM, Scott Granados <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> This is not correct. >>>> >>>> Even with out service enabled the GPS chip is functional and also pulls >>>> location data from the network. You have to have cell signal for the >>>> tower based location but GPS will be received all the time. You will need >>>> to have data cached locally if you don’t have an active account. WiFi is >>>> not required however. >>>> >>>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 2:37 PM, tim <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have recently tried just what your wanting to do. You can do it as long >>>>> as you have a wyfy connection. If not then your iPhone is just a big >>>>> paper weight and only good for books and games. >>>>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 2:25 PM, E.T. <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> How about just "follow your dog"? Its not impossible. And its not Eat, >>>>>> its E.T. >>>>>> >>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the >>>>>> world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn >>>>>> your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>>>>> E-mail: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/31/2017 11:16 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote: >>>>>>> Hey EAT, >>>>>>> How about a tactual compass? >>>>>>> This would point you and the guide dog in the general direction >>>>>>> and when you get close the dog's training would kick in! :) >>>>>>> Chuck "Ancient Aliens" for the deluded, is when you brush aside >>>>>>> all the Beauty of the world, all the evidence that points to Our >>>>>>> intelligent Design. You ignorantly choose to ignore the evidence! And >>>>>>> belch out Ancient Aliens did it!" >>>>>>> CR >>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 2:06 PM, E.T. wrote: >>>>>>>> A little effort and a little bribery with the guide dog will work >>>>>>>> wonders. That is what they are trained for. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the >>>>>>>> world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn >>>>>>>> your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>>>>>>> E-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8/31/2017 11:00 AM, Phil Halton wrote: >>>>>>>>> Well, you could go old tech and just ask for help. Honestly, >>>>>>>>> technology has it's limits and sometimes there's just no substitute >>>>>>>>> for a friendly smile and asking for help. And, it offers certain >>>>>>>>> possibilities not available on your phone. >>>>>>>>> Sent from my IPhone >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 1:54 PM, Todor Fassl <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm going on a camping and rock climbing trip with a group called >>>>>>>>>> Adaptive Adventures. Last year, I had some trouble getting lost in >>>>>>>>>> the camp grounds. Like if I wanted to get to the bathroom on my own >>>>>>>>>> I would always get kind of lost. I have a guide dog but he'd get >>>>>>>>>> confused as to what I wanted him to do. 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