Hi Karen,
We do agree. This is why I mentioned I have little room for
intellectual property theft. It’s a difficult balance. On the one hand I’m
all for observing copy rights and of course paying the artists for their hard
work but some countries are so heavy handed. I don’t know where that line is
exactly but there is one there somewhere. Piracy is no good though, no
argument from me.
> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:28 PM, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Scott,
> while that is indeed an excellent point, there are a good ten different
> ways such an exchange might have taken place,..most importantly without
> posting a link to the contents on an entire list of people. I might add that
> the person asking the question said nothing about informational oppression,
> they stated that the show is available with Spanish descriptions, and they
> wanted English.
> To be sure, there is a small chance that game of Thrones is restricted in a
> few Spanish speaking countries, the nudity might generate as much.
> Still, there was no need at all for the link to the contents appearing for
> everyone, now in the archives as well.
> Do not mistake me, I resonate with the dangers of limited cultural exposure,
> echoing your concerns for journalistic freedom for example stateside. yet,
> an explanation of the reason, supporting our possible reasoning, followed by
> an offer to privately share, while clearly and honestly stating where the
> description can be obtained legally, in my personal view, would have been
> better.
> Piracy of stolen artistic creations is a crime too.
> Kare
>
> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
> skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
> hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
> love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
> opposite." Nelson Mandela.
>
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Scott Granados wrote:
>
>> Karen, technically you’re right but what I think he’s bumping in to is state
>> sponsored censorship. I could be wrong as I’m not exactly sure where the
>> poster is from but I know in many countries content is banned and has to be
>> spread using technologies that subvert the government controls. A good
>> example where I definitely know this is true is China. A practical example
>> of this is the Big Bang theory. The show the Big Bang Theory is banned in
>> China, yes Sheldon is off limits.;). So many citizens of China use methods
>> ranging from different torrents, VPNs, net news (remember that one), SSH
>> tunnels and more to build a bridge to a point in the clear where things are
>> freely available like we’re used to in the west. (For now anyway). Also in
>> these countries many copies are ripped and traded not necessarily to steal
>> them although they are but because they have no other method for the content
>> and one lesson we never seem to learn as a society and species is that
>> markets will always find a way and demand will always find a supply.
>> Whether it’s the absolute idiotic war on drugs, that foolish experiment that
>> was repealed by the 21st amendment, or censorship a way is always found to
>> fill the demand. So while I definitely don’t support intellectual property
>> theft, I am willing to cut folks in parts of the world where they aren’t as
>> free some slack. Also makes me appreciate what I have and where I live. I
>> think I’m inspired to go put some rounds down range, ah if it weren’t so
>> late.;). I do think this is where the poster is going though. Trade at your
>> own risk and make your moral judgements accordingly. I personally buy my
>> content like it sounds like you do because I can and want to support the
>> efforts of the artists but it’s easy for me to do so. If I had to hide from
>> Uncle Sam to watch my favorite show I might feel differently and have to
>> take different steps. It’s a big bad world out there.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> So this is stolen property?
>>> I am not sure I understand the no other option idea.
>>> Karen
>>>
>>> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
>>> skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
>>> hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
>>> love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
>>> opposite." Nelson Mandela.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi there.
>>>> I understand what you are saying, but I have no alternative or other
>>>> options where I live.
>>>> As I said before, some stuff is available from the serotek network.
>>>> Other things I am getting from friends. You can also subscribe to Net
>>>> flix and they also have described content there.
>>>>
>>>> Nektarios.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 7 Sep 2017, at 23:43, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> where are you getting this from?
>>>>> Personally I prefer, *legal* sources, and want to experience it as I
>>>>> would with a DVD, i. e. not just the description but dialogue etc.
>>>>> Karen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
>>>>> skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
>>>>> hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
>>>>> love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
>>>>> opposite." Nelson Mandela.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>> I have all seasons described in mp3 format.
>>>>>> If you want it please contact me off list.
>>>>>> I am also interested in other described content so, if someone can set
>>>>>> up an email list or drop box folder let me know.
>>>>>> Since this is very much off topic I will not post other info here.
>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>> Nektarios.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7 Sep 2017, at 23:24, Eric Brinkman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is the rest of the series available with audio description as well? And
>>>>>>> where are you getting it from?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Des Delgadillo <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry that last bit was meant for a different message, but the
>>>>>>>> enclosed link was indeed for GOT series 7 with ad
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Des Delgadillo <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here you go, courtesy of Lee, our fearless leader.
>>>>>>>>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/qlyjxu
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Eric Brinkman
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would like to watch this show with audio description as well, so
>>>>>>>>>> please reply on the list. I have been trying to get into the series
>>>>>>>>>> but find it very confusing without narration.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Daniela Rubio <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for this off topic, I never do it. But, just wanted to know
>>>>>>>>>>> if anybody can help me with this. I want to enjoy this TV show in
>>>>>>>>>>> English and audio described. Is it possible somehow?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In Spain, we have the six first seasons audio described in
>>>>>>>>>>> Spanish, but not the 7 season.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any reply, and if you want, please write in private as
>>>>>>>>>>> this is an off topic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best, Daniela.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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