Hi Alex,

>From the iphone 7+ side of things,
Yes the x is far faster and quicker response time

I can’t say anything about the 8 or 8+ but I would assume again that it’s 
quicker mainly due to the processor and ram in the devices

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Saturday, 18 November 2017 2:23 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: it's here, the X

One other question for any X users. I've read that the screen samples touches 
faster than any other iOS device. Does this translate to smoother VO 
experiences? That is, do swipes or other gestures register faster, making VO 
feel snappier overall compared to a 7 or 8? Or is the difference not really 
noticeable?

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On Nov 17, 2017, at 16:39, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

All I can say is that it's different.

I'm finding it easy so far to convert but yeah it's different.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Friday, 17 November 2017 11:51 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: it's here, the X

Well, Kliphton like me you use to have a windows mobile and that had no home 
button so I am not surprised that you are use to having no home button.

Hope to get my 10 next week.

Kawal.


On 15 Nov 2017, at 21:32, Kliphton Miller 
<kliph...@icloud.com<mailto:kliph...@icloud.com>> wrote:

the no home button is fine.  Like simon said, once you get use to it it’s fine. 
 You place your finger, start sliding up, the first feedback you get is to 
close the app or folder, if you keep going you get the app switcher.  I think 
it will come down to personal preference, I like the no home button, but a lot 
of sited useres like the 8 because it still has it.  I have also learned you 
can still get to notifications and the control center the exact same way.  This 
one is hit or miss, but sometimes when I am in a folder, I just place my finger 
at the bottom of the screen, and press down a bit and the folder closes for me. 
 Not every time, but about 45 percent of the time.

On Nov 15, 2017, at 12:26 PM, Alex Hall 
<mehg...@icloud.com<mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:

My main question for blind iPhone X users is about the home button. I've seen 
some real negativity on Twitter about the decision to remove the home button, 
but have not come across any such negativity in the real world. How do users 
like the change? The Touch Bar on the MacBook, for instance, is plenty usable 
but often less efficient than physical keys are. Or is it more like the 
two-finger gesture on iPad under iOS11, which makes accessing apps faster and 
more fluid, at least to me? Or is it something else entirely?

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 15, 2017, at 12:12, E.T. 
<ancient.ali...@icloud.com<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Microsoft is in another dimension. I did forget OS X 10.9 which was Mavericks.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind
off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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On 11/15/2017 8:39 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
Yes, that’s true. Different reasons for Microsoft, I think, but same result. 
But your points are valid.
Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in Training JAWS, Microsoft
Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World Services
for the Blind

On Nov 15, 2017, at 10:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com%20%3cmailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>>>
 wrote:

Don't think so. Remember, this IS the 10th anniversary of the iPhone. Also 
remember, Apple did not skip iOS 9.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the
world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn
your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>


On 11/15/2017 8:33 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
My guess is that technology companies don’t like the number nine. Ten is just 
too exciting to wait for. Microsoft did this too.
Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in Training JAWS, Microsoft
Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World Services
for the Blind

On Nov 15, 2017, at 7:19 AM, Sharon Hooley <shoole...@gmail.com 
<mailto:shoole...@gmail.com<mailto:shoole...@gmail.com%20%3cmailto:shoole...@gmail.com>>>
 wrote:

I wonder why Apple released iPhone 8 and then jumped to ten soon after?



On Nov 15, 2017, at 3:11 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com%20%3cmailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>>
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Hi List,
So today I received notification from my mobile provider that
my iPhone X had arrived, And quite frankly it’s like being on a
first date, I’m kind of concerned  about touching it in case I
do something wrong, I will say that setting up the device out
of the box and using iCloud backups  doesn’t work when your
back ups are on IOS Public beta versions, and the new device
was IOS 11 production release… A bit of playing allowed me to reset the device 
back to the factory start point and run through without an issue So far after 
playing around for an hour or so, I’m actually really impressed with what they 
have done, Once you get passed the fact there is no home button it’s actually 
easy to work with the slide finger up to get the app switcher and home screens.
The device is very quick, and although smaller physically it’s
stil got great screen realestate to work with, So I’d say so
far it’s been worth the wait but still more playing around to come over the 
next couple of days At least the iPhone x doesn’t slap me if I put my hand in 
the wrong place.

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