As I pointed out, its not cut and dried. Much of the blame falls
directly on the heads of many politicians who sleep with Corporate America.
From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: [email protected]
On 11/24/2017 11:43 AM, [email protected] wrote:
I am going to steel a line from a comedy in the 60's. "Minimum output, maximum
prophet. There was a real fire storm on another list that was inadvertently started
by the moderator. It was about immigrants being hired to do jobs in the U S, when
in fact, the U S citizens did not want to do those jobs, it was beneath them. In the
case here, perhaps it is cheaper to use workers from another country, or farm out
the jobs to another country. That is just business, though. Do I agree with it?
No. However, if one's agenda is to make maximum prophet with minimum output, so be
it. The results of the fire storm, the moderator closed the thread. The entire
thing was comical and sad at the same time. The moderator jumped in where he did
not need too and put a quart of gas on the embers that were already dying out.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: November 24, 2017 11:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Illegal Student Labor Used To Assemble iPhone X, Apple Admits |
HuffPost
Its not cut and dried. Its not a simple matter. The jobs can indeed come
back, and should. That would impact the pricing of course. Its called supply
and demand. Remember that one? Its a concept that went the way of the
dinosaurs. If people want to earn a decent living making these products here in
the States, they can...if the manufacturers would make it so.
Would prices increase or decrease? Who knows. But consider the middle
class earning more thus having more spending power.
From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: [email protected]
On 11/24/2017 10:29 AM, lenron brown wrote:
Um people always say that but here is what you got to keep in mind.
These phones and things will never be built in the US. The company
still would not make as much money. Do you really think someone in the
states will work for what they pay them over there?
On 11/23/17, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote:
But Chuck,
They can't take the jobs back in to the USA,
Americans have to large fingers to get into those small spaces in the
phones and other mobile devices.
They'd have to get really really young American children so the
finger sizes were small enough to put things together.
Or make the phones and tablets larger than they are.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of CHUCK REICHEL
Sent: Friday, 24 November 2017 12:34 PM
To: macvisionaries <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Illegal Student Labor Used To Assemble iPhone X, Apple
Admits | HuffPost
Hi Mark,
Can't wait to start bringing back these out sourced jobs to the US!
:) Just lower the US tax rate and we'll be assembling the Iphone's
here! :) Chuck "God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’
On Nov 22, 2017, at 9:09 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
Illegal Student Labor Used To Assemble iPhone X, Apple Admits
Transit school students said they worked 11-hour shifts for required
"work experience."
Nina Golgowski
Apple has admitted that one of its main Chinese factories worked
student interns overtime to assemble its iPhone X, violating local
labor laws.
The admission on Wednesday came after teenage workers claimed they
were regularly forced to work 11-hour shifts assembling the pricey
devices in order to graduate from school, according to a report
published in the Financial Times.
The tech giant, as well as plant operator Hon Hai Precision Industry
Co., also known as Foxconn, has denied the student program was
involuntary but admitted the long hours violated policy.
"We've confirmed the students worked voluntarily, were compensated
and provided benefits, but they should not have been allowed to work
overtime,"
Apple said in a statement obtained by HuffPost.
The corporation, headquartered in California, said it has sent staff
to the overseas plant to address the violations, which it said
involve a small percentage of the workers.
The six students, aged 17 to 19, told the Financial Times that they
were among a group of 3,000 students from Zhengzhou Urban Rail
Transit School who were sent to the Zhengzhou factory to complete a
three-month stint for "work experience."
One student, who didn't want to be identified because of fear of
retaliation, said she was tasked with assembling the new iPhone X
smartphones, which cost just under $1,000, despite studying to be a
train attendant.
"The work has nothing to do with our studies," the 18-year-old told
the Times.
Foxconn, in a statement obtained by Reuters, admitted that some
interns have worked more than 40 hours per week on "program-related
assignments," which violates their policy.
In 2015, The Asia-Pacific Journal reported that Foxconn's student
work programs frequently violated the rights of student interns and
Chinese law.
"Foxconn, through direct deals with government departments, has
outsourced recruitment to vocational schools to obtain a new source
of student workers at below minimum wages," the report states. "The
goals and timing of internships are set not by student educational
or training priorities but by the demand for products dictated by
companies."
Factories that produce Apple products in Asia, like Foxconn, have a
history of workplace violations and criticism from labor rights
groups that have cited them over excessive overtime, unpaid
overtime, hiring underage workers, underpaying student workers, and
exposure to chemicals and other hazardous environments. Plants where
Apple products were manufactured also saw a series of suicides in 2010-2011.
Li Qiang, founder of New York-based advocacy group China Labor
Watch, told Bloomberg improvements have been made at factories in
Shanghai that work on Apple products, but there's still a ways to go.
"Ultimately it's about production needs. From Apple's actions, it
seems like they don't care about the labor standards they set
previously," Qiang said, while claiming that Apple knew about the
students' long hours weeks ago but didn't do anything about it.
"They could have stopped these students working night shifts and
long hours sooner, but they didn't do that," he said.
Last April, an intern for China Labor Watch described working
12-hours shifts in an iPhone assembly line at a Chinese plant while
sitting in a backless chair and being punished when a machine broke,
causing parts to get backed up.
"What is behind these Apple products are millions of hands and
millions of untold lives," Dejian Zeng wrote. "Some of them are
genuine friends that I know, who are still struggling whether they
should use the restroom or take a nap in that 10 minute break, who
are still struggling whether they should buy the 15yuan ($2.25)
roasted chicken as a treat for the weekend, who are still struggling
whether they should stay in the factory tomorrow and if not, where
else will they go?"
Foxconn did not immediately return a request for comment Wednesday.
Original Article at:
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a157b73e4b09650540e82ec?ncid=APP
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