Yeah that's what I did, But one small difference,
I'm single, not married or attached anymore, Lifes so easy until you need someone to pick you up from the pub cause you don't know the way home! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of lenron brown Sent: Sunday, 31 December 2017 4:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Why Apple's "Batterygate" apology didn't go far enough Ha ha if you want that new phone just get it if you can afford. Sell the old to recoup some of the cost. On 12/30/17, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote: > but tim aren’t you the man of the family? Shouldn’t you be able to do > what you wish to? > > Or is that only if your wife gives ou permission to do so?! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 31/12/2017, at 5:30 AM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> T?he "dam slo down" is a matter of perception. I'm still running a >> 6S?, so is my wife and my daughter is running a 6. I'd expect >> slowdowns on each of those devices by now, especially my daughter's >> 6. If the slowdown's are happening, they're definitely not enough to >> decide that we need new iPhones. I could use that as an excuse >> though and maybe my wife would cave and let me buy one, but I doubt >> it. Whether Apple is the best corporation around, or not is actually >> immaterial. They make a good product, and so does Samsung. Samsung >> made a mistake last year with their batteries, maybe Apple was trying >> to make sure that they didn't have those sorts of issues as well. In >> either case, Samsung is still a reputable corporation that makes good >> quality product, and so is Apple. We armchair executives may have >> multitudes of opinions, but we're also not the ones answering to >> shareholders, the same shareholders that encouraged Apple to quit >> putting so many costly resources into accessibility, as it is not something >> with an excellent return. >> >> Later... >> >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Dec 30, 2017, at 00:21, lenron brown <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Well consumers probably thought they needed a new device in certain >> cases because of the damn slow down, When really all they needed was >> a new battery. This article got one thing right though. It will just >> blow over and most will act like this company is still the best at >> everything. The fact that they are selling the batteries for 30 bucks >> is mind blowing, because my thoughts are still why wasn't they doing >> this in the first place. >> >>> On 12/29/17, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote: >>> hi, >>> >>> Thanks Mar for this. Interesting take, but flawed in my opinion. >>> First, no one was "forced" to purchase the new phone, that was a >>> choice those consumers made. Second, the mention of all the >>> customers that faithfully go out and purchase the newest model would >>> do so whether their phone was slowing down or not, they just like to >>> have the newest iPhone. "Hungry lawyers" though is spot on, along >>> with some over zealous consumers. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Dec 29, 2017, at 19:46, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Why Apple's apology didn't go far enough By Jefferson Graham | USA >>> TODAY Updated 4 minutes ago In the grand tradition of past Apple >>> fiascos like Antennagate (dropped calls on the then-new iPhone 4) >>> and the launch of Apple Maps (directions that weren't accurate), the >>> tech giant apologized again to consumers this week. >>> The question is whether the iconic iPhone maker's apology went far >>> enough. >>> We didn't think that it did. >>> First, Apple was forced to admit that it intentionally slowed down >>> the performance of older phones in order to keep up with declining >>> battery life. >>> It acted after a 17-year-old user performed a test that proved it. >>> Critics howled, the Twitterverse pounced and several consumer >>> lawsuits were churned out by hungry lawyers. One asked for a $5 >>> million in compensation on behalf of all the consumers who felt >>> forced to upgrade their otherwise healthy older phones after they >>> were slowed down by Apple's software update. >>> They were not given the choice to opt-in for the battery-saving >>> slowdown feature. >>> Analysts had suggested Apple pen an open letter to consumers. While >>> the world awaited a beefier response from Apple than its initial >>> admission, we tried to do some of the work for them. We wrote the >>> letter that we hoped Apple would write, and posted it. A few hours >>> later on Thursday, Apple came clean and released it's own take. >>> One major difference between our proposed apology and Apple's: We >>> suggested Apple say they were sorry and offer free battery upgrades >>> for any consumer who wanted one. Apple saw it differently. It >>> offered an apology but not a free battery. Instead, it is offering a >>> new battery at a discount: >>> $29.99, >>> $50 less than usual cost. The deal is available starting in late >>> January and running through the end of 2018 and only on iPhone 6 and >>> 6S. >>> Remember, this is the world's most profitable company, a firm that >>> paid CEO Tim Cook $102 million in salary and bonuses in 2017. Apple >>> generated $10 billion in profit for just the most recent quarter. >>> Yet it refuses to give away free batteries to inconvenienced Apple >>> customers who have been suffering from slow downs of their phones >>> that they bought from Apple in good faith. >>> Analyst Patrick Moorhead of Moor Insights says Apple's replacement >>> battery costs less than $10. He estimates that only around 100,000 >>> consumers will take up Apple on its offer. Even if the battery >>> replacement was free, he says some 250,000 people would participate, >>> the result of which would be "barely a blip to Apple's earnings." >>> A free battery would go a long way towards erasing widespread >>> suspicion that Apple purposely tries to make its older products >>> obsolete in order to coax consumers into buying new ones. >>> Apple denied this in the open letter. >>> "We have never - and would never - do anything to intentionally >>> shorten the life of any Apple product, or degrade the user >>> experience to drive customer upgrades," the company said. >>> But rivals Samsung, LG, Motorola and HTC all say they don't slow >>> down their phones to factor in older batteries. >>> "Apple's offer of discounted batteries fails to compensate consumers >>> who were forced to purchase new iPhones," said James Vlahakis, a >>> Chicago-area lawyer who filed the $5 million class-action lawsuit. >>> The $50 discount on the price of a new battery "is an insult to >>> loyal customers who have consistently and with much fanfare have >>> flocked to Apple stores worldwide to purchase every version of the >>> iPhone." >>> Still, Moorhead believes this latest fiasco will blow over for Apple >>> and fans will continue to wait on line breathlessly when next >>> generation of iPhones are announced and come to stores, typically in >>> September. I tend to agree, but it will be harder to take Apple's >>> statements at face value again. >>> >>> In other tech news this week >>> .Amazon Echo Dot. Amazon said this week that it's Echo Dot speaker >>> was the best-selling product among the thousands of items it offered >>> on its website during the holidays. The Dot is the cheapest way to >>> get the Alexa personalized assistant into the home. It's normally >>> $49, but was discounted to $29 beginning in November. >>> .HQ Trivia. The game app is set to launch on Android Monday. Who >>> wants to win some quick cash? The ultra-popular mobile game show, >>> open to anyone who wants to try answering 12 questions for prizes of >>> around $1,500, had said it would move beyond the Apple IOS base to >>> launch on Android phones as well. >>> Search for HQ Trivia on the Google Play Store to pre-register and >>> get a notification when the app is live. >>> .Tweet archiving. The Library of Congress won't archive everyone's >>> tweets. >>> All tweet activity has been archived since 2010, but beginning next >>> week, the Library of Congress says it will "continue to acquire >>> tweets but will do so on a very selective basis." The library says >>> tweets collected and archived will be thematic and event-based, >>> including events such as elections or themes of ongoing national >>> interest, like those involving public policy issues. >>> This past week on the Talking Tech podcast Seven apps made me say >>> Wow in 2017 - Who's playing HQ trivia? >>> This tech investor bought 365 gadgets and here are his 15 favorites. >>> We meet up again with Peter Pham. >>> Crazy CES pitches. You've got to hear some of the requests from >>> people who want to meet up at the world's biggest trade show. >>> Have you checked out Facebook Marketplace? Re-selling your unwanted >>> items? >>> Facebook is giving Craigslist and eBay a run for their money. >>> Consumers riled up about Apple's Batterygate. We spoke to iPhone >>> owners in the historic Gaslamp district of San Diego about Apple's >>> admission that it slowed down older phones purposely. >>> Rockin' with the Fusion Guitar. My take on the electric guitar that >>> gets its power from an iPhone. >>> Talking Tech in 2017. Looking back at 365 episodes of the podcast, >>> and some of our favorite topics. >>> The apology letter from Apple we wanted to see - We channeled Apple >>> on the apology letter we thought the company should write. >>> Originally Published 12:54 p.m. PST Dec. 29, 2017 Updated 4 minutes >>> ago >>> >>> Original Article At: >>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/nletter/2017/12/29/why-apples-apology >>> -didnt-g >>> o-far-enough/990459001/ >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the >>> list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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