Thanks for the confirmation, Gena. Glad to know I'm not the lone stranger! As to why Windows would do this, I would suspect some kind of default Windows Defender security setting. But, they should add logic to not mess with audio when a screen reader process is running. That's likely a bug that should be filed.
I think they would respond to such a bug. They have worked to make screen reader mediated installation possible. So, this is a finishing touch they need to add. One of us should probably file the bug. At the moment, I'm more interested in getting mine going because work that requires Windows is piling up. But, I want to make sure it's filed. So, if you, or someone else files this bug, please advise. Thanks again for seeing this through. Janina Georgina Joyce writes: > Hello Janina, > > Well good but bad news. I’ve been using my MacBook Air’s bootcamp partition > for about an hour. I’ve lost audio. Just plugged in my USB headset that I > used to install Windows. It made the new hardware sound through the headset > and NVDA announced installing software for the new device. So I have lost > sound via it’s own speakers and have sound through an independent sound card. > So you were right it’s a driver issue. > > Now why should Windows mess about with a driver while it is in use? > > Regards, > > > Gena > > Georgina Joyce > Applied Psychologist > Training and Coaching. > Because individuals of groups matter! > > > > > > > On 10 Jan 2018, at 15:52, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote: > > > > Hello Janina, > > > > I think the blind keystrokes might be: > > > > Open the run dialog box: > > cmd r, i.e. Windows r. > > > > If you have a cd/DVD version the USB will be assigned E:\ if not it is > > likely to be d:\. I don’t know the path structure of the unzipped package > > so you’ll need to know it by exploring it on the Mac side of things. Going > > by the article your run command should be: > > e:\windowsSupport\setup.ext > > > > Windows will want you to allow changes so you need: > > opt Y i.e. alt y. > > > > Then the article suggests you might need to click continue, so you might > > need to: > > opt c i.e. alt c. > > > > You might need to do a: > > opt f i.e alt f. > > > > To finish. > > > > Then a opt y i.e. alt y. > > > > Answering yes to a reboot. Then hold on to something that gives you > > security to see what happens. > > > > HTH > > Gena > > > > “Why not?” > > > > Michael Hinson 2011 > > > >> On 10 Jan 2018, at 15:16, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk > >> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote: > >> > >> Hello Janina, > >> > >> Good to hear from you too. > >> > >> Yes the first thing that needs to be done is to install the bootcamp > >> drivers. You needed to go to the system tray and bootcamp hangs out there. > >> There must be a way of triggering the install from the run dialog. If that > >> is the sate of the machine like installs with Narrator support a USB > >> headset would provide audio. Did you use a USB headset that has it’s own > >> sound card for the installation? > >> > >> Looking on the web I think you should be able to run the setup.exe from > >> the run dialog. > >> > >> See here: > >> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204923 > >> <https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204923> > >> > >> > >> > >> Gena > >> > >> Call: M0EBP > >> Loc: IO83PS > >> > >> > >> > >>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 13:48, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Yeah, that's what I need to check and confirm. And, if not already > >>> installed, get them installed. > >>> > >>> All I know is that that box was checked when I started the process. > >>> Whether it succeeded, or was somehow interrupted or aborted, I have no > >>> way to know. > >>> > >>> Jonathan Cohn writes: > >>>> Did you install the bootcamp drivers? I am not sure exactly how do this, > >>>> but I understand that sound will not work correctly until the bootcamp > >>>> drivers are installed once the OS has been installed. > >>>> > >>>> Best wishes, > >>>> > >>>> Jonathan Cohn > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 5:46 AM, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk > >>>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hello Janina, > >>>>> > >>>>> Interestingly, I lost sound on my bootcamp install of Windows 10 and > >>>>> blamed it on activation of jaws. The volume was muted twice. I have > >>>>> removed and reinstalled Windows and installed NVDA but not really > >>>>> played with it. So I hope I don’t experience the muting of sound again. > >>>>> I’m sure someone on the BCAB list also had problems too. > >>>>> > >>>>> OK, so have you tried Narrator? > >>>>> > >>>>> I did find a command line to change the mute status but I only tried it > >>>>> once and it did not return sound, reasoning that I mistyped or wasn’t > >>>>> in the right place to enter such a command. > >>>>> > >>>>> The command was: > >>>>> > >>>>> nircmd.exe mutesysvolume 0 > >>>>> > >>>>> From: > >>>>> > >>>>> https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sound-volume-via-the-command-line > >>>>> > >>>>> <https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sound-volume-via-the-command-line> > >>>>> > >>>>> <https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sound-volume-via-the-command-line > >>>>> > >>>>> <https://superuser.com/questions/42039/change-windows-sound-volume-via-the-command-line>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Good luck and let us know how you get on. > >>>>> > >>>>> Gena > >>>>> > >>>>> Georgina Joyce > >>>>> Applied Psychologist > >>>>> Training and Coaching. > >>>>> Because individuals of groups matter! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 03:59, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > >>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'm wondering whether it makes sense to doctor a BootCamp install of > >>>>>> Windows 10 from within VMware. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I've encountered the situation where my headphone jack is refusing to > >>>>>> work for my existing BootCamp install of Windows 10. It worked for a > >>>>>> brief while, then stopped. Nothing I've tried has brought it back. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What I need to do is to apply Apple's BootCamp drivers. These should > >>>>>> have been installed via the BootCamp process, of course, but I've been > >>>>>> unable to verify that. Certainly, at the moment there's no sound from > >>>>>> Windows, though I've verified there is a working installation there. > >>>>>> I've actually poked around in it with NVDA. It literally died on me as > >>>>>> I > >>>>>> was trying to login with my BootCamp drivers at hand on a USB stick. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So, my question. Can I apply these drivers if I load up my BootCamp > >>>>>> install within the latest VMware? I'm presuming it reads apfs. But I > >>>>>> wonder whether it would go silent the same way, or perhaps that it > >>>>>> might > >>>>>> be using different drivers at that level. 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