Anouk,
Good point with Mail. I was thinking about mentioning it as I was trying to get 
to this thread of conversation with my busy busy mail App, and then saw your 
message.
Indeed, Mail is also a pain.
I'm running the latest updates, but have not tried using a different account. 
What I did though, is make sure that nothing was launching unnecessarily, 
including the stuff that gets in the Library folders, and the processor is 
pretty stable.
Is VoiceOver not multithreading?

Jonathan, good call on the cursor tracking. I'll look into experimenting with 
that as well.

Emrah
> On Jan 17, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I am using the newest version of os x and it is fully updated.
> 
>> On 17 Jan 2018, at 16:02, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, you didn't indicate if you have upgraded to the latest version of the 
>> OS. Also, have you looked to see if the problems persist when creating a 
>> temporary account or using the "guest" account on the system. This is a good 
>> way to see if the slowdowns are a system issue or a configuration issue. 
>> Note there are some websites that push so much junk around in JS that the 
>> Macintosh can't keep track of what is where. This can especially be the case 
>> for Group mode where VoiceOver has some idea of what is is played out where. 
>> 
>> Another place you can run into trouble is Facebook if navigating bia the 
>> VoiceOver keystrokes instead of the FB  recognized keys. ) Generally on 
>> sites that VoiceOver does not work well for me, I will turn off Cursor 
>> tracking and then make sure to use route functions for entering data. In 
>> fact, I think I will reassign the numbed enter key to be "route keyboard 
>> focus to voiceover cursor". This way I can quickly move focus but still keep 
>> the cursor tracking off. Though this might still have some problems with 
>> vo-shift-M or vo-space.
>> 
>> 
>> On 17 January 2018 at 05:30, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi, I have the seem problem with my 2013 macbook air with core i7 and 8gb of 
>> ram. Safari is constantly busy as is often mail.
>> I have no such problems on ios but os x with voiceover is REALLY sluggish.
>> And while braille is better then in the last release its still worse then 
>> what it used to be.
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
>> > On 17 Jan 2018, at 10:26, Emrah <li...@kavun.ch <mailto:li...@kavun.ch>> 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi good people,
>> > I'm seriously starting to lose it with Mac OS, and iOS in general. I have 
>> > a Macbook Air 11" early 2015 with a Core I7 and 8GB ram, and my overall 
>> > experience with the OS is super unpleasant.
>> > Everything feels slow and sluggish, Safari is constantly overwhelmed, even 
>> > on Apple Websites, and god help me with filling out Web Forms... All I 
>> > hear is Busy, busy, busy, busy... You can get used to it and take it with 
>> > patience, but at some point you just know something is wrong and you start 
>> > getting real upset.
>> >
>> > Do you have tips to optimize this? What is going on? This isn't worthy of 
>> > a company in the hundreds of billions of dollars.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> > Emrah
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