Oh, Ok, I will try that the next time VO stops talking to me! Thanks again.
> On Apr 23, 2018, at 4:32 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > cmd-shift-q still requires a response, whereas cmd-option-shift-q will log > you out right away. The difference being that if your Mac wants a > confirmation, and as a VO user, you're unable to do so, then you're hooped > and have to do the forced shutdown as you did. When I use the > cmd-option-shift-q,m I get logged out right away, and then I can log back in > again with VO working properly the second time. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Apple Teacher > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Apr 23, 2018, at 14:16, Robert Cole <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hi Tim, > I had already thought to log out with cmd+shift+Q. > But I still had no speech. > Thanks, > Rob > > >> On Apr 22, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Two things to note here. First, if you're able to take a snap-shot, then >> the System has not crashed, just probably the speech synthesizer. Instead >> of holding down the power button, press cmd-option-shift-q to log out of the >> current user without any prompts. This will take you back to the Login >> window and when you login the second time, VO should start normally. I've >> seen this issue on occasion, but haven't figured out why it's happening. >> Second thing to note is that when you take a screen shot, the resulting png >> file is always placed on your Desktop. It will be titled Screen Shot >> followed the time stamp of the snap shot. It will remain on the Desktop >> until you remove it, unless you've logged in as the Guest user, for which >> anything on the Desktop is lost at logout. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Apple Teacher >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Apr 22, 2018, at 12:39, Robert Cole <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Dear Alex, >> After booting my Mac, I had speech on the log on window, but not after >> logging into my user account. >> Pressing cmd+F5 did nothing. >> I pressed the commands to take a system snapshot as you suggested. Since I >> had no speech, I had to hole down the power button to shut down. >> after rebooting and logging >> back in, how do I find the system snapshot, and what is its name? >> Thanks, >> Rob >> >> >>> On Apr 14, 2018, at 6:56 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> That's a new one for me. My only suggestion is to try something that worked >>> for me: if you're using portable preferences with VoiceOver, stop using >>> them and see if the problem persists. If you're already not using them, all >>> I can suggest is to grab a system snapshot and email it to Apple >>> Accessibility. To do this, wait for the problem to happen, then press >>> command, option, control, shift, and period, all at once. After ten minutes >>> or so, Finder will open to the results, a large file you can email with >>> Maildrop or via a cloud service. >>> >>> -- >>> Alex Hall >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 14, 2018, at 11:21, Kristeen Hughes <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have a Mac Mini from 2016. This has also happened on previous Minis. I >>>> have never known it to occur on a laptop. I will be listening to music and >>>> I will quicklook another type of sound file or even sometimes a file that >>>> uses voiceover. I’m guessing that two sounds hit the in a very specific >>>> way and I lose not only the voice of voiceover, but all of it’s >>>> functionality as well. Other apps are still open and functioning, and, for >>>> example, if I can command+tab to iTunes, I can pause it. However, any VO >>>> command results in the default sound you get if you are at the top or >>>> bottom of a file or. >>>> >>>> Is there any way to restore VO without rebooting the computer? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Kristeen >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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