Karen, Since we are neither talking Macintosh or low vision access at this point, the conversation is pretty much off topic. I was trying to understand your point of view and attempting to ask you to help me appreciate why you have on multiple times on multiple mailing lists gotten very defensive about the web practice of using Captcha.
Your forwarding of my fairly polite personal message to the list was I believe inappropriate, but I will not ask for an apology. I do apologize for specifically calling you out as somebody who is not a person who has taken the Apple kool-aid. (Smile ) I do sincerely want to indicate no harm was intended toward you so I had trouble determining how to write this on a public forum that is searchable by billions of people. On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 11:04 PM Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote: > Mr. Cohn, > The desire for understanding tends to be expressed prior to assumptions. > I have no desire nor inclination to satisfy your interest. > I dare say, since the list is where you started, this note was intended > for > there. I certainly did not express a wish to hear from you privately. > > > > On Sat, 12 May 2018, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > > Hello Ms. Lewellen, > > > > I use the Surname here in mirror to your remarks to me on the > MacVisionaries mailing list. My memory of your web browser of choice > isLynx. I am not aware if this is your only browser and if the reason you > use it is directly related to any disability. I do have the personal view > that properly designed ARIA widgets that use Javascript to modify the DOM > have made my access to complex web sites significantly easier. I used Lynx > briefly, but found myself leaning more toward using commercial screen > readers and standard web browsers as my vision decreased and support for > IBM's wonderful self voicing web browser disappeared. > > > > Perhaps I mistaken about your web browsers of choice or perhaps I have > not understood why somebody would use Lynx for day to day browsing. A > Significant number of sites I visit and for that matter the systems I check > accessibility on professionally do not progressively degrade to a non > JavaScript environment and while 10 years ago I would often disable > JavaScript and Java plugins because of security concerns, today current > sandboxing technologies boast my confidence in the ability of browsers to > be more secure. > > > > If you would like to provide feedback to the above thoughts I will > consider it carefully and use it to help my future design decisions. > > > > Thanks for keeping the fires burning, I know you have done a lot for the > accessibility community. > > > > Warmly, > > > > > > > > Jonathan Cohn > > > > > > > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: [email protected] and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected] The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
